Fiosh Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 A friend sent a copy of this article by Mathias Dapfner (Nov, 2004) to me and I was stunned when I read it. Stunned, because the author is not a "right-wing conservative" but a prominent German publisher. These are only excerpts; to read the entire article simply Google "Mathias Dapfner" or check out "www.snopes.com". EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE (Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer,AG) A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because it's so terribly true. Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives, as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements. Appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet Union, then East Germany, then all the rest of Eastern Europe, where for decades, inhuman suppressive, murderous governments were glorified as the ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities. Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore nearly 500,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and, motivated by the self-righteousness of the peace movement, has the gall to issue bad grades to George Bush... What else has to happen before the European public and its political leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an especially perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by fanatic Muslims, focused on civilians , directed against our free, open Western societies, and intent upon Western Civilization's utter destruction. It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great military conflicts of the last century - a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accommodation" but is actually spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness. Only two recent American Presidents had the courage needed for Anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush. For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the American economy - because unlike almost all of Europe, Bush realizes what is at stake - literally everything. These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands, frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber breaking into a neighbor's house. Appeasement? Europe, thy name is Cowardice. IN GOD WE TRUST GOD BLESS AMERICA TAKE CARE & PEACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaour Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 179 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,941 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1964 Share Posted April 21, 2007 awwwwwmmmmmm, Youre gonna get in trouble for posting that. Everyone knows that you can only say bad things about America. Sneaks out of room while whispering(Great article, though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 awwwwwmmmmmm, Youre gonna get in trouble for posting that. Everyone knows that you can only say bad things about America. Sneaks out of room while whispering(Great article, though.) I love that article! At last, a European who understands that the war is Islam against civilization. I know there are others and I hope they stand up and smite the menace that skulks among them. Bush makes me furious at times but I have always supported his determination to rid the world of Islamofacism. Did anyone ever really buy that 'religion of peace' stuff that our government used to spout (but stopped a couple of years ago)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 wow....that was great stuff ya'll I recently met a whole lot of Germans who think the same way. The Germans are true friends as long as Angela Merkel is their President. We have a short window of time there. My German friends say Europe's "spiritual/moral" fate depends on America's next election. Oh no...it's up to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash_the_archer Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 313 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 awwwwwmmmmmm, Youre gonna get in trouble for posting that. Everyone knows that you can only say bad things about America. Sneaks out of room while whispering(Great article, though.) youre joking right? You can not say "Europe", cause they are all very diffrent. Spanish culture is more close to hispanic than lets say english, Greeks are almost like talebans to their women the daughters cant date et c. No European culture is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeilanS Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,763 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/23/1990 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Europe isn't perfect. Neither is America. America murders millions of babies every year. America kills who knows how many innocents as part of their war on terror. America exploits 3rd world economies and slave labour in order to keep their economy growing. America neglects the environment in order to continue gaining industry. America is a great place to live, so is Europe. America has great people, so does Europe. Does anyone else see a pattern? Both are great places to live, both have flaws. Could we please stop bashing other countries (or continents in this case)? And if we really must, how about worrying about war and slavery in Africa, rather than thinking up all of Europe's past mistakes and laughing at them. I do not mean to insult any Americans in this post, I just feel that I should point out that no country is perfect, not Europe and not America. God Bless, Keilan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Europe isn't perfect. Neither is America. America murders millions of babies every year. America kills who knows how many innocents as part of their war on terror. America exploits 3rd world economies and slave labour in order to keep their economy growing. America neglects the environment in order to continue gaining industry. America is a great place to live, so is Europe. America has great people, so does Europe. Does anyone else see a pattern? Both are great places to live, both have flaws. Could we please stop bashing other countries (or continents in this case)? And if we really must, how about worrying about war and slavery in Africa, rather than thinking up all of Europe's past mistakes and laughing at them. I do not mean to insult any Americans in this post, I just feel that I should point out that no country is perfect, not Europe and not America. God Bless, Keilan Spoken like a true pacifist. I don't recall anyone saying America is perfect.........but at least they don't strap bombs on their kids to blow up Israeli milk bar and cafes. thanks for sharing that, Toni. Great piece of journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 The Germans are true friends as long as Angela Merkel is their President. We have a short window of time there. Oh no...it's up to us? Isn't it always? Great articles, you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiosh Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Europe isn't perfect. Neither is America. America murders millions of babies every year. America kills who knows how many innocents as part of their war on terror. America exploits 3rd world economies and slave labour in order to keep their economy growing. America neglects the environment in order to continue gaining industry. America is a great place to live, so is Europe. America has great people, so does Europe. Does anyone else see a pattern? Both are great places to live, both have flaws. Could we please stop bashing other countries (or continents in this case)? And if we really must, how about worrying about war and slavery in Africa, rather than thinking up all of Europe's past mistakes and laughing at them. I do not mean to insult any Americans in this post, I just feel that I should point out that no country is perfect, not Europe and not America. God Bless, Keilan Hi Keilan, You're right, no country/continent is perfect. No one is claiming that. This particular article addresses the issue of Islamic terrorism---a gobal threat----and the difference in how it is being addressed by Europe as opposed to those in America who support Pres. Bush's tough stance. Peace (but not at the cost of liberty), Fiosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckthesystem Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,706 Topics Per Day: 0.26 Content Count: 3,386 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/12/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/10/1955 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Brilliant articles - both of them. And oh so true. It is really about time that the people of Europe woke up and saw what is all around them. The word "appeasement" is totally appropriate, it sums everything up. The leaders of most European countries have been appeasing and appeasing, all the while seemingly not noticing that they are just a "frog in a pot of boiling water". And when they do wake up to that fact, it will be too late for them, and unfortunately probably the rest of the world too. Can we put some of this down to the EU's "dumbing down" policy? "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it". I was reading an article about education a couple of days ago and the first paragraph said "in a Las Angeles classroom a teacher is stunned when her high school class has no idea what the Holocaust was". I found that scary enough, but the part where it talked about a survey done of British adults, was almost chilling: According to what was written, "another survey of 2000 British adults found a staggering 11% believe that Adolf Hitler is a fictional character and five percent believe that Conan the Barbarian is a real figure from early Nordic history. Nearly 33% don't believe the "cold war" was a real event and six percent believe that 'the war of the worlds' from the story by HG Wells, was real". It gets worse, as "one in every 30 British adults thinks the 'battle of Helms Deep in the Lord of the Rings trilogy - featuring slavering orcs - actually took place. So if in a generation or so very many people believe that Hollywood made up Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust, somebody will come up with the "bright idea": "Hey, let pass legislation and kill all our Jews". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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