Elizabeth Edwards vs. Ann Coulter

[Guest Biblicist]

Would you call a Nazi a hatemonger? Would you call Fred Phelps a hatemonger? I am not calling her a hatemonger simply because I disagree with her. I am calling her a hatemonger because she spreads hate. In fact, she has made a career out of spreading hate. I am not personally attack her anymore than I would be personally attacking a klansman or a nazi by calling them a hatemonger. I am simply making an observation. Calling Ann Coulter a hatemonger is no more of a personal attack than saying that a heterosexual is straight would be.

A better question here is why read her books? Why watch her on television? Why listen to her interviews on talk radio? Why give her speaking engagements at various conventions?

Unfortunately there are some very hateful and vile individuals in this world, yet decent people normally do not give them a platform to profit from their hate. A lot of people on here have stated that they like her, they buy her books. As Christians, as people who are supposed to be decent and conscionable individuals why would anyone on here buy her books, watch her on television, or listen to her on the radio? Why would a Christian allow people to profit, in fact get rich off, hate?

She has every right to say any vile and hateful thing that wishes to say, she does not have the right to such a platform though. People need to quit giving the woman a platform.

The fact that she makes money selling her ideas and views is more important to you than her eternal soul?

I would not call anyone a hatemonger. I would call them what they truly are. Sinners. As we all are. Isn't that what matters?

I read her books to see what it is she has to say. I want to be throughly informed as to her position, not listening to the liberally slanted media about their take on what she has to say. It's wrong to only listen to one side of the story without searching for the Truth in each situation.

Christians do not allow anything, God allows it.

It is obvious that you seriously dislike her, and if you don't love her how can you care anything about her soul? Matthew 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

If I were to call you a vile hatemonger right now I believe that the mod's would be notified and the post would be removed with a warning. It is a personal attack, just because it is not said to her face doesn't lessen the insult.

[Pizzaguy]

I object to that.

Your objection has been noted.

Also, you just threw in the wildcard of "no matter how you define that phrase."

If I defined that phrase as "Ann Coulter", I think that would count.

Ok, then she's not a hatemonger - no matter how I define the phrase. I cannot answer for the fact that you make up definitions to fit your (weak minded) arguments.

If someone wanted all liberals to be sent to a prison where torture was practiced, to be held alongside terrorists, and torture to be a televised sport, how would that not be hateful? That hate is obviously then mongered in some manner.

So now you tell us that Ann wants all liberals to be sent to prison.... after someone blows that argument out of the water, what will you come back with then?

Is your thought process here anywhere close to the technique you use to read or interpret scripture?

[Pizzaguy]

Christian people ought not give a woman a platform who exploits and makes fun of the death of someone's child.

Just think of the mistake Christian people make by supporting a person like Mrs. Edwards.

"I am completely comfortable with Gay marriage." <-- Don't stand too close to me, Mrs. Edwards!

[Guest Biblicist]

This is the transcript:

Chris Matthews: You know who's on the line? Somebody to respond to what you said Edwards yesterday morning -- Elizabeth Edwards. She wanted to call in today we said she could. Elizabeth Edwards go on the line you're on the line with Ann Coulter

Elizabeth Edwards: Hello, Chris.

CM: You wanna say something directly to the person who's with me?

EE: I'm calling you

[Pizzaguy]

Would you call a Nazi a hatemonger? Would you call Fred Phelps a hatemonger?

A Nazi? Not sure. Hitler sure preached hate of the Jews, so I guess he'd be a "hatemonger", but I would'nt use that term, as I think such a term is "political speech for the short bus"....

And Phelps? He's a KOOK trying to make a name for himself.

[forrestkc]

The fact that she makes money selling her ideas and views is more important to you than her eternal soul?

I would not call anyone a hatemonger. I would call them what they truly are. Sinners. As we all are. Isn't that what matters?

I read her books to see what it is she has to say. I want to be throughly informed as to her position, not listening to the liberally slanted media about their take on what she has to say. It's wrong to only listen to one side of the story without searching for the Truth in each situation.

If that is the case, then there are plenty of decent conservatives out there who write books. Why read hers? Has George Will ever wished death on those who disagree with him? Has Bill O'Reilly ever called those who disagree with him "fags"? Has Newt Gingrich ever made fun of one his political opponents loss of a child?

So why read her books? Why provide financial support for those who spew hate?

Christians do not allow anything, God allows it.

It is obvious that you seriously dislike her, and if you don't love her how can you care anything about her soul? Matthew 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

If I were to call you a vile hatemonger right now I believe that the mod's would be notified and the post would be removed with a warning. It is a personal attack, just because it is not said to her face doesn't lessen the insult.

If I made fun of people on here for losing a child, called people on her fags, and wished death on others on here, then you would be perfectly justified in making the observation that I was a hate-monger. As I stated earlier, calling Ann Coulter a hatemonger is like saying that a heterosexual is straight. Your pointing out the obvious.

[georgesbluegirl]

I can't stand Michael Moore, although I did like Bowling for Columbine. He's a nutty windbag.

Al Franken is pretty sweet though.

[forrestkc]

This is not an accurate "transcript" of the conversation.

Publish the accurate transcript then if that one is not accurate. Where is the inaccuracy of that one?

I would find it very, very hard to believe that its not an accurate transcript being the source is none other than MSNBC.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200.../26/236484.aspx

[forrestkc]

I can't stand Michael Moore, although I did like Bowling for Columbine. He's a nutty windbag.

Al Franken is pretty sweet though.

I don't like Moore either. He is a very talented filmmaker, but I don't like him. I have not bought any of his books. I never have cared for Franken's show, but his books are entertaining.

[Guest Biblicist]

This is not an accurate "transcript" of the conversation.

Publish the accurate transcript then if that one is not accurate. Where is the inaccuracy of that one?

I would find it very, very hard to believe that its not an accurate transcript being the source is none other than MSNBC.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200.../26/236484.aspx

I listened to the video on MSNBC video and read the transcript you posted, it was not completely accurate.