A steakhouse and a soldier's wife

[WayneB]

I wonder how you would feel if Canada was attacked, 'Smash.

I'd be there for you too, my Brother.

t.

I would too if the Army would have me back.

[Guest idolsmasher]

I also suspect that the need to insist it was "the Jews fault" is because such a person has a need to find a scapegoat against confronting his own sin, and confronting it for what it really, really is.

Don't get me wrong Ted, I'm not completely against all aspects of the war on terror. I just don't think that Saddam's Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 and that the reasons for THAT war were fabricated in order to push a long standing agenda of the people involved in this and other American administrations. I believe they used 9/11 and played on the fears of Americans to do what they have wanted to do for years but previously didn't have the kind of atmosphere in which they could rightly or wrongly justify it.

[Guest idolsmasher]

Looks like there is more oil in Canada than all of the Middle East, imagine that.

From the Alberta Energy Department

Canada has the world's largest single deposit of oil containing an estimated 1.6 trillion barrels of bitumen

[JohnS]

Don't get me wrong Ted, I'm not completely against all aspects of the war on terror. I just don't think that Saddam's Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 and that the reasons for THAT war were fabricated in order to push a long standing agenda of the people involved in this and other American administrations. I believe they used 9/11 and played on the fears of Americans to do what they have wanted to do for years but previously didn't have the kind of atmosphere in which they could rightly or wrongly justify it.

And wouldn't it be wonderful if you were able to prove some of that before you spread it around...... like manure. You have nothing but THEORIES and RUMORS and you treat them like facts.

Can you prove that Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11? No

And the rest is the accepted liberal line on the war, no facts, but that's the standard answer. Be original.

You spoke of Godly fear in your 2nd post on this thread. We are going to answer for every word. Count on it.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Just look at the CIA report, after interviewing tens of thousands of Iraqis after the war they couldn

[WayneB]

I also suspect that the need to insist it was "the Jews fault" is because such a person has a need to find a scapegoat against confronting his own sin, and confronting it for what it really, really is.

Don't get me wrong Ted, I'm not completely against all aspects of the war on terror. I just don't think that Saddam's Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 and that the reasons for THAT war were fabricated in order to push a long standing agenda of the people involved in this and other American administrations. I believe they used 9/11 and played on the fears of Americans to do what they have wanted to do for years but previously didn't have the kind of atmosphere in which they could rightly or wrongly justify it.

Fair enough 'Smash. I don't agree but that's OK. Actually, you and my Dad, who spent 30 years in the U.S. Army, would probably agree on this. It is interesting to note that the ones who are most likely to want to use some other means than military force...are the military themselves.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

(CBS) NEWS

Paul O'Neill George Bush's Treasury Secretary speaks to correspondent Lesley Stahl.

[nebula]

Nope, not what I was saying or meaning at all

Splain please, I ain't that telepathic yet.

I'll put it this way . . . .

Have you ever seen a person arguing for animal rights, even condemning the mistreatment of farm animals, wearing leather shoes?

[Guest idolsmasher]

Nope, not what I was saying or meaning at all

Splain please, I ain't that telepathic yet.

I'll put it this way . . . .

Have you ever seen a person arguing for animal rights, even condemning the mistreatment of farm animals, wearing leather shoes?

That argument doesn't make sense. I'm not knocking the use of oil, just the political coruption that uses underhanded means to secure the control and supply of oil. It amounts to a form of wickedness and evil that I believe Christians should be willing to stand against and expose. The way the system is we are all dependant on oil, I would just like to get rid of the evil and corrupt means being employed to keep America supplied, like the Iraq war, and then to move to cleaner non polluting sources of energy to eliminate or lessen the utter dependence on oil.

[Guest idolsmasher]

Can you prove that Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11?

That's what all the intelligence said, this has been all over the news.

And wouldn't it be wonderful if you were able to prove some of that before you spread it around......

There's plenty of evidence out there John as I'm sure you are aware. It seems the Christian right has blinders on and all they see is a right wing president who is doing their bidding. It all depends on what you choose to believe, the facts or right wing rheteoric. If the reasons for the war are any indication, I think we should stick with the facts.

It is interesting to note that the ones who are most likely to want to use some other means than military force...are the military themselves.

Yes, that is interesting as practically nobody in the Bush administration is a military person except Colin Powell, and he was the most reluctant of the bunch. Also, as I recall before the war, the military was pretty divided over the need to go into Iraq with many top people saying so.