"Who Will Rise Up?"

ajesuschrist_mathetes · November 28, 2007

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Will-Rise-Jed-Smock/dp/0910311250

Back around 1987 I was blessed to be at an evangelistic meeeting by Jed Smock {yes, controversial,...}. Anyway, after that meeting, read his book and pondered The LORD's question:

Psa 94:16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? [or] who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?

After prayer, gave my "I will" vow to The LORD. 1987

Years later, after receiving year after year of attack by Evil, getting no help from various pastors I had gone to, and being woken up AGAIN, this time with a high-pitched ringing in my years, I cursed God, June 1998.

Yet He restored me, reminding me of the vow I made in 1987. When you make a vow unto God, the Scriptures tell you that you had better keep it.

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Anyone here want to consider rising up for The LORD?

stan4257 · November 28, 2007

Psalm 94 (New International Version)

New International Version (NIV)

1 O LORD, the God who avenges,

O God who avenges, shine forth.

2 Rise up, O Judge of the earth;

pay back to the proud what they deserve.

3 How long will the wicked, O LORD,

how long will the wicked be jubilant?

4 They pour out arrogant words;

all the evildoers are full of boasting.

5 They crush your people, O LORD;

they oppress your inheritance.

6 They slay the widow and the alien;

they murder the fatherless.

7 They say, "The LORD does not see;

the God of Jacob pays no heed."

8 Take heed, you senseless ones among the people;

you fools, when will you become wise?

9 Does he who implanted the ear not hear?

Does he who formed the eye not see?

10 Does he who disciplines nations not punish?

Does he who teaches man lack knowledge?

11 The LORD knows the thoughts of man;

he knows that they are futile.

12 Blessed is the man you discipline, O LORD,

the man you teach from your law;

13 you grant him relief from days of trouble,

till a pit is dug for the wicked.

14 For the LORD will not reject his people;

he will never forsake his inheritance.

15 Judgment will again be founded on righteousness,

and all the upright in heart will follow it.

16 Who will rise up for me against the wicked?

Who will take a stand for me against evildoers?

17 Unless the LORD had given me help,

I would soon have dwelt in the silence of death.

18 When I said, "My foot is slipping,"

your love, O LORD, supported me.

19 When anxiety was great within me,

your consolation brought joy to my soul.

20 Can a corrupt throne be allied with you

AnExample · November 29, 2007

I will stand up for righteousness!

damo1 · November 29, 2007

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Will-Rise-Jed-Smock/dp/0910311250

Back around 1987 I was blessed to be at an evangelistic meeeting by Jed Smock {yes, controversial,...}. Anyway, after that meeting, read his book and pondered The LORD's question:

Psa 94:16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? [or] who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?

After prayer, gave my "I will" vow to The LORD. 1987

Years later, after receiving year after year of attack by Evil, getting no help from various pastors I had gone to, and being woken up AGAIN, this time with a high-pitched ringing in my years, I cursed God, June 1998.

Yet He restored me, reminding me of the vow I made in 1987. When you make a vow unto God, the Scriptures tell you that you had better keep it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Anyone here want to consider rising up for The LORD?

damo1 to ajesus christ mathetes

well psaml 94 is a good psalm and l like it very much with me being ordained in the philippines after my marraige to my wife to be who is a pastor and has 7 pastors under her the lord has been teaching me threw psalm 23 of what it means to be a shepherd and why it is important for pastors to not just feed the sheep which is the body of christ but to also do what he taught king david king david was taught by the lord how to be a true shepherd he even put his neck on the line for the sheep that he was asked to look after by his father david was only a young boy but he killed anything that came in between him and the sheep that he was looking after soon david took on goliath and the god helped david win many battles even when he hid in the caves after king saul was out to get him

and often king david would calm king saul down when he was over taken king david had a good relationship with johnathan sauls son jonathen was also a man of davids heart

1 samuel 14 new international version verse 29

jonathen said my father has made so much trouble for the country see how my eyes brightend when i tasted

a little of this honey

30 how much better it would have been if the men had eaten today some of the plunder they took from their enemys

would not the slaughter of the philestines have been greater

this is what the lord has been doing with me for the last couple of days as i have just been sticking close to him and giving him al my troubles everysingle insulting word and even those that love nothing but to plant seeds of doubt into an unstable christians mind to the point wear that new christian begins to question what ever jesus has done for them even to the point of what jesus did for us on the cross

yes we are alowed to have our say also since its a forum wear we share our thoghts on a subject to what the op of the post is asking but i wonder do we know what psalm 94 is realy saying its easy to say i wil stand up to the enemy as i often hear this in my town i am living in and then when the enemy comes in like a roaring lion i see those that say this run back to what they wear when they wear sinners and when you see them and ask them what happend why are you no longer in church you wil get this i am not ready to stand up for this gospel as i thought i was

i am reaching out to one pastor know who was a mighty man in god yet what hurts me the most is this the people in this church that my friend use to pastor in he has decided to live in this farming comunity that i am living in know and in a new relationship with the youth worker he had fallen for every one who knows him in this church snob him to the point of saying hurtful things and i can see in his eyes when we sit down and have coffe in the mal wear you can not hide but are wel known it hurts him how the people he once was feeding doing al a pastor can to the point of even giving up time for his new wife who also was from the same country as my wife to be is i some times have to say some thing when they see me sitting and having coffe with me as sevral have pulled me up and said how can you sit with a heethen or a snake i just say wel i am the same as this man i also cursed the same god he stood up for once and the very same man that gave his life for not just me but you jesus gave his life up for this man it almost sends these people running as i say how about being jesus to him instead of cursing him like the pharisees did with jesus these people just walk by and i have to pat my friend on the back

as i said to him i wil never judge you or throw your sin in your face but i wil stand in the gap for you

yet what i am seeing in psalm 94 and psalm 23 for my self is this those that are strong in their walk should be standing up for the weak ones among them we al know who the new born babes are and if we are going to openly say on a christian forum yeh i wil do this yeh i wil stand up to the evil one wel i can honestly say when things wear falling appart for me and when the enemy came in like a flood to the doors i my self left open to wear he can tear my marraige appart and get me to a point wear i hated god hated everysingle christian not one person who would stand up and say preach it brother i am hear al the way brother i wil put my own life on the line for this gospel

only one person came to my side when my world was caving in on me to wear i no longer could even stand on gods word my best mate who i smoked pot with who i even drank with and shot up herroin with hitched hiked al the way from boggabri to canberra and drove my car with my personal belongings al the way back to his place and he was their for me he stopped me from geting angry he prevented me from flipping when my x constantly baited me to the point of even acepting to false charges by wear i was to be at her place and abuse her and then be back in boggabri

he new i had no clue to wear she was only by her having his contac number and only him and his wife talking to her wear they both said when the ph rings you do not pick it up you play what ever is thrown at you i put up with what ever my x wife could throw at me

this is what i mean when i say the lord has been showing me what its like to be a true shepherd

i am great full for every blessing that has come into my life i am great ful for gods prottecting hand over my life and i am know great ful for this new page that has opend yet i wonder do we walk the walk or do we just talk to the talk i am not knocking down no one hear i plan not to do that or set my self up to wear i wil be attacked but when i share in a topic i share from the heart and by what i have been threw as a human who only wanted to see what i was reading in gods word turn into action by some of those i looked up to and honestly al i got was let down after let down and this is wear i would get mad to wear i no longer had that hunger to grow or was hungry for gods word as by my human eyes i wil always see those around me in a diffrent light

at one stage i was asking jesus to forgive me and take what ever is not of him and nail it to the cross then i learnt this people are human and humans wil always let me down but jesus wil never let me down though i have also been saying this is no good lord if you are leading me into this and my partner has said i want you to help me pastor the new church she has planted i want to be like these mighty men i have read about lord i want the same lessons you wear teaching king david to be passed on to me as i do not want your people who i am going to be leading and feeding being eaten by savage wolves or false prophets

i am already standing up for this gospel i do not let no one tarnish it as false prophets false pastors and false teachers have given us good christians and good pastors and true prophets a bad name they are among us and we need to stand together as one and fight the good fight that is our god given right the dicsiples did this the apostles did this jesus set the first example by saying in the gospel of john when he prayed for him self its time i have finished what you have asked me to do i am ready to come home

john 17 new spirit filled life bible

4 i have glorified you on the earth i have finished the work which you have given me to do

i am sorry for being so open like this but after nearly loosing my wife to be in the first cyclone that has hit the philippines when they wear coming back from the staff meeting on another island and a 5 hr trip to wear they wear ready to come home to the lord what they did and how she told me how they just prayed threw out the ordeal the lord had his hand on that boat that was being hit and the people as wel as they wear the only christians on borad al the others wear non belivers mothers with kids every one scared and in the midle of the ocean with sharks as well in the waters

my faith has been shaken up to the point wear i knew why i was wokken up and jolted and told to pray

i know we are at a diffrent pace in our walks with the lord and that we are hear to grow and support each other my hope also is that i get refreshed and encouraged by my other brothers and sisters in the lord threw worthy and when i share openly i hope that my brothers and sisters do not feel like i am attacking them or putting my self above

i never wanted this i was happy being a servent i was even content in cleaning goverment bulidings and having my hands in a toilet bowl or buffing a floor but the lord has just blown me away and i am know even in a job wear i can be a light or lamp to a child who has no parents my faith is being shakken to the point wear i have to be on the path he has me on as this is what i have been praying for my self and stiring my own spirit

1 timothy 5 verse 15 meditate on these things give your self entirely to them

that your progres may be evident to all

i have been in prayer stil and al i have been doing is pooring my heart out to the lord and saying thank you father thank you

thanks brother for sharing this realy appreciated this i did not want to take over your post but only wanted to share what the lord has been saying to me threw this last month as me and my pastor often talk about psalm 94

and i do understand wear you are coming from as well

god bless from your brother in the lord damien stipic

ajesuschrist_mathetes · November 30, 2007

Appreciate all replies-stan4257,onwingsaseagles,AnExample,dam01. Wow-dam01:how long did it take you to post that? Lots that you posted sounded similar to my experiences as well as others.

Do not think it is just me and maybe it is the area here in Schenectady { lots of spiritual darkness plus we have gone through years of bloods/crips/crack/etc. coming up from New York City and General Electric, which used to be the giant employer, pretty much left}-have yet after years of searching to find any pastors {=shepherds} who were not {in my view} simply tired. Kind of the last thing desired was another sheep. Church building maintenance/utilities big headache. Holy Spirit-filled believers:have to say this, they are simply not wanted. Yes, how can that be [assuming it is so]??? PERHAPS a "kosmokrator" - Ephesians 6:12- responsible for the darkness/miasma/"enervating fog" you can almost see.

Small example-few years ago a Muslim named Ghengis Khan [not kidding] attended a weekly meeting we have with city council and citizens. Several "Christian" pastors were there. Not one mentioned Jesus Christ, not one. Not one. One woman said something about Islam, and was shouted down. The "Christian" pastors later gave a statement preaching tolerance-again, not once mentioning Jesus Christ nor the obvious source of Islam/Koran [sura 4:157-Christ Jesus not Crucified; other Surahs state that it is blasphemy to call him The Son of God and that hell fire awaits for those who do, on and on. We know 1John and should know that the devil is source and an "angel" from him named Gabriel forced poor Mohammad to write the Koran].

So-ideas? To me I have studied the newsweeklies for decades {Time, Newsweek, ...}. There is simply an information blackout on truth, best way I can state that. Clearly the enemies can get onto and post/read on a message board. So???

Ron...

ajesuschrist_mathetes · December 7, 2007

Been thinking about my last posts and no replies. Drove you all away??

Correction-Imam at Schenectady City Hall Meeting wasn't the muslim Genghis Khan I mentioned-he was in another Gazette article. Just went and found those articles, then got them online. Anyone can ask me and I would be more than glad to email any/all to you. I am posting here a summary of the search for those 5-cannot post contents as that would violate Gazette copyright:

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