WN: Security Guard: 'God Guided Me And Protected Me' - The De

[WorthyNewsBot]

Jeanne Assam appeared before the news media for the first time Monday and said she "did not think for a minute to run away" when a gunman entered the New Life Church in Colorado Springs and started shooting.

http://www.worthynews.com/news/thedenverch...80-detail-html/

[O'Dannyboy]

The guard did well but she was not the only one ready to stop him. It apears there was a vietnam vet who was risking his life to distract the gunman. Heres the article.

Ans this article was on MSNBC of all places.

[Hypathia]

Everytime something like this happens I start to doubt. Why didn't "God" stop the gunman if he's good and powerful and if everything is in "his" will. How could something this horrible be part of a plan by a good and loving god? When the smoke clears and the big ballgame is won people say it was "god". But where was "he" when people are going "crazy" and thinking about doing these things, why does "he" allow those who pray faithfully to die at the hands of a gunman. Why would someone from a deeply religious family with aspirations of being a missionary become a gunman? We can blame it on satan but then.....god made satan and god says he creates evil (Isaiah).

What if there isn't a god at all and we're just kidding ourselves.

This whole thing is just depressing.

[jehovah Nissi]

Everytime something like this happens I start to doubt. Why didn't "God" stop the gunman if he's good and powerful and if everything is in "his" will. How could something this horrible be part of a plan by a good and loving god? When the smoke clears and the big ballgame is won people say it was "god". But where was "he" when people are going "crazy" and thinking about doing these things, why does "he" allow those who pray faithfully to die at the hands of a gunman. Why would someone from a deeply religious family with aspirations of being a missionary become a gunman? We can blame it on satan but then.....god made satan and god says he creates evil (Isaiah).

What if there isn't a god at all and we're just kidding ourselves.

This whole thing is just depressing.

Where in Isaiah does it say that? Satian can't create anything...he was created himself by the one and only creator, GOD. He created him to glorify Him but God also created him with his own free will just like He created every single one of us. satan rebelled against God and ever since then, satan has been trying to PERVERT God's perfect creation.

The gunman going to shoot these people in the church was never God's will...that's murdure and God hates murdure. So why are things on earth happening outside of God's will? Because corruption came into the world through sin and made a mess of things. God did stop this gunman, through His servants at the church. You will find that God is always going to work through someone...He always has and he always will. As for the gunman, God couldn't work through him because obviously the gunman wouldn't let Him. I believe that God told him not to go in and start shooting...but he had his own free will and it went against God's will for him so he worked through the gaurds and the vetrain to stop him. That's how I see it.

It is hard to handle these things when the true nature of God is not fully understood. I'm not saying that I have a perfect understanding of it myself. I still have tons of questions myeself, but what I do know...I'll tell you

Walking in victory

J

[Hypathia]

Everytime something like this happens I start to doubt. Why didn't "God" stop the gunman if he's good and powerful and if everything is in "his" will. How could something this horrible be part of a plan by a good and loving god? When the smoke clears and the big ballgame is won people say it was "god". But where was "he" when people are going "crazy" and thinking about doing these things, why does "he" allow those who pray faithfully to die at the hands of a gunman. Why would someone from a deeply religious family with aspirations of being a missionary become a gunman? We can blame it on satan but then.....god made satan and god says he creates evil (Isaiah).

What if there isn't a god at all and we're just kidding ourselves.

This whole thing is just depressing.

Where in Isaiah does it say that? Satian can't create anything...he was created himself by the one and only creator, GOD. He created him to glorify Him but God also created him with his own free will just like He created every single one of us. satan rebelled against God and ever since then, satan has been trying to PERVERT God's perfect creation.

The gunman going to shoot these people in the church was never God's will...that's murdure and God hates murdure. So why are things on earth happening outside of God's will? Because corruption came into the world through sin and made a mess of things. God did stop this gunman, through His servants at the church. You will find that God is always going to work through someone...He always has and he always will. As for the gunman, God couldn't work through him because obviously the gunman wouldn't let Him. I believe that God told him not to go in and start shooting...but he had his own free will and it went against God's will for him so he worked through the gaurds and the vetrain to stop him. That's how I see it.

It is hard to handle these things when the true nature of God is not fully understood. I'm not saying that I have a perfect understanding of it myself. I still have tons of questions myeself, but what I do know...I'll tell you

Walking in victory

J

Isaiah 45:7 says God created evil....not satan (you misunderstood that part of what I was saying). If God hates murder then why did god murder so many people in the bible and why doesn't protect those who ask for his protection. We're taught that he does if we ask and yet he doesn't do it in reality so we end up making excuses.

Maybe God is there but the bible wasn't written or inspired by god and that's why we get so confused about things....we're always trying to see god thru a false belief system? I bet that gunman had been saying his prayers for years just like Andrea Yates and that Amish schoolhouse gunman last year and many other who've sincerely prayed for god's guidance and yet, it doesn't work. It's too easy to blame it on the person praying to get god off the hook. It's getting increasingly harder for me to do it especially since my fundamentalist/evangelical husband deconverted.

Maybe there's just nobody out there or up there at all; maybe that's the honest, cold, hard truth after all.

[JustinM]

God doesn't see life on earth the way we see it. We were created to glorify Him with our lives, then fellowship with Him in Heaven for eternity. If you ask me, almost all deaths are mercies from God. Tell me what the better option is? A lifetime of pain and suffering on Earth, or an eternal life of immeasurable joy and happiness and a personal relationship with our Creator?

[Hypathia]

God doesn't see life on earth the way we see it. We were created to glorify Him with our lives, then fellowship with Him in Heaven for eternity. If you ask me, almost all deaths are mercies from God. Tell me what the better option is? A lifetime of pain and suffering on Earth, or an eternal life of immeasurable joy and happiness and a personal relationship with our Creator?

If death was a mercy from God then everybody would pray to die today, you wouldn't need prayer requests or prayer circles when someone gets sick; you wouldn't have had so many people trying to keep a feeding tube in Terri Shiavo last year to prolong her suffering if people "really" thought that death was a mercy from God. People say all this stuff but deep down they really don't believe it. --- The best option is to not kill people, do as much good for your fellow man as you can while you're here on this earth and just enjoy the brief life that we have.

I guess I'm feeling rather "suspicious" and cynical today......I'm on the cusp of realizing something I may not want to acknowledge because it's so sad.

[Guest sharma472]

Everytime something like this happens I start to doubt. Why didn't "God" stop the gunman if he's good and powerful and if everything is in "his" will. How could something this horrible be part of a plan by a good and loving god? When the smoke clears and the big ballgame is won people say it was "god". But where was "he" when people are going "crazy" and thinking about doing these things, why does "he" allow those who pray faithfully to die at the hands of a gunman. Why would someone from a deeply religious family with aspirations of being a missionary become a gunman? We can blame it on satan but then.....god made satan and god says he creates evil (Isaiah).

What if there isn't a god at all and we're just kidding ourselves.

This whole thing is just depressing.

I'm new here, so please excuse me if I do this all wrong but I feel I have to say something. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, so in the beginning Golgotha was already in place to serve as Jesus' place of death. He gave us free will from the beginning with Adam & Eve all the way down to Judas. It's what We do with our free will that causes the pain and distruction or the joy that we create in our lives and the world around us. God created Judas, he didn't have to be the one to betray Jesus, he could have prayed just as easy as Jesus...let this cup pass from me, but he chose to take the money. If this gunman had stayed on his knees and close to God then Satan would never had a foothold in this man's life to cause him to do the things that he did. As for the people dying, how sad and awful that is, but they were in church, praising and worshipping our Lord and Saviour can you imagine praising him one minute and looking into His eyes the next? Sometimes, I say we can't blame Satan for everything that goes wrong, but then I think he has only a limited amount of time left and then he is done. He is about his business, taking souls to hell with him, and he does his job extremely well...if us Christians would do our jobs as good as satan so many of these horrific incidents that are taking place would not take place. We want to blame God but how much am I or you really doing to stop satan?

[Hypathia]

Everytime something like this happens I start to doubt. Why didn't "God" stop the gunman if he's good and powerful and if everything is in "his" will. How could something this horrible be part of a plan by a good and loving god? When the smoke clears and the big ballgame is won people say it was "god". But where was "he" when people are going "crazy" and thinking about doing these things, why does "he" allow those who pray faithfully to die at the hands of a gunman. Why would someone from a deeply religious family with aspirations of being a missionary become a gunman? We can blame it on satan but then.....god made satan and god says he creates evil (Isaiah).

What if there isn't a god at all and we're just kidding ourselves.

This whole thing is just depressing.

I'm new here, so please excuse me if I do this all wrong but I feel I have to say something. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, so in the beginning Golgotha was already in place to serve as Jesus' place of death. He gave us free will from the beginning with Adam & Eve all the way down to Judas. It's what We do with our free will that causes the pain and distruction or the joy that we create in our lives and the world around us. God created Judas, he didn't have to be the one to betray Jesus, he could have prayed just as easy as Jesus...let this cup pass from me, but he chose to take the money. If this gunman had stayed on his knees and close to God then Satan would never had a foothold in this man's life to cause him to do the things that he did. As for the people dying, how sad and awful that is, but they were in church, praising and worshipping our Lord and Saviour can you imagine praising him one minute and looking into His eyes the next? Sometimes, I say we can't blame Satan for everything that goes wrong, but then I think he has only a limited amount of time left and then he is done. He is about his business, taking souls to hell with him, and he does his job extremely well...if us Christians would do our jobs as good as satan so many of these horrific incidents that are taking place would not take place. We want to blame God but how much am I or you really doing to stop satan?

But the bible overwhelmingly states that god predetermined everything; those verses far outnumber the verses that talk about free will. Praying for god to come into your life and the lives of your children is asking God to do that and the bible says that if you ask god for anything he will do it. Even in the bible 'Lucifer' doesn't kill anybody except in the book of Job and even there he has to ask god's permission; he didn't act on his own free-will and the whole Job thing was some cruel cosmic bet. Bottom line, after those those people praised and glorified god, they died.

God made satan, that is, if the story is even true. I'm doubting at the moment whether anything in the bible is anything more than man-made stories minus any factual truth.

[JustinM]

People pray for an end to the suffering that their loved ones are going through at times. That's mercy and compassion, two wonderful traits that God hardwired into us. To ask that God deliver a loved one from death is a selfish thing to ask of God, but that is also part of being human, we don't want to see loved ones die, that's another trait that is hardwired into us. God also does not want us to die, He laments every spiritual death that occurs, He did so much for us to avoid that. If life can be summed up in one sentence it might go like this: Life is a Test. You should be flattered that God tests you with adversity and tragedy, it shows how much faith He has in you.