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[Guest shiloh357]

She will be left with only God to turn to....

And that comes as a surprise?

But we remember, that with God, 'One' is a majority

Yeah, but what does that say about the Church? In the end, the majority of the Church will turn their backs on Israel. Most of it already has.

[sweetycakes]

She will be left with only God to turn to....

And that comes as a surprise?

But we remember, that with God, 'One' is a majority

Yeah, but what does that say about the Church? In the end, the majority of the Church will turn their backs on Israel. Most of it already has.

But the majority of the 'church'.......at least as understood in the conventional sense..(through the eyes of the world)...is not fundamentally Christian.

[stan4257]

She will be left with only God to turn to....

And that comes as a surprise?

But we remember, that with God, 'One' is a majority

Yeah, but what does that say about the Church? In the end, the majority of the Church will turn their backs on Israel. Most of it already has.

When I already know from scripture what the end will be it becomes a bit difficult to worry too much about the processes that are a part of the conclusion.

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zechariah 7:23)

[Guest shiloh357]

She will be left with only God to turn to....

And that comes as a surprise?

But we remember, that with God, 'One' is a majority

Yeah, but what does that say about the Church? In the end, the majority of the Church will turn their backs on Israel. Most of it already has.

When I already know from scripture what the end will be it becomes a bit difficult to worry too much about the processes that are a part of the conclusion.

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zechariah 7:23)

No, the church is and will be turning its back on Israel long before we get into the throes of the great tribulation. Even now churches are seeking to engage in economic divestments against Israel, as well as propagating the heresy of Replacement Theology.

[sweetycakes]

Right, Shiloh.

Pretty much the whole world will turn it's back in Israel.

But I know who I would rather be standing with..................the one whom God has chosen.

(that would be Israel, btw)

[Smalcald]

But the true Church cannot of course ever be wrong. For what the Church binds here is bound in heaven, Christ Himself established this Church. I think we need to be a little careful about how we speak of an institution which Christ Himself established. Of course humans do all sorts of crazy things, but the Christian Church the communion of true believers led by the Apostles, guided by the Holy Spirit and by scripture, which has spread this Gospel around the entire world, THAT Church will not persecute Israel or any country for that matter.

Merry Christmas! We celebrate today the birth of Christ in Israel, hopefully one day He will be fully welcomed in Israel.

[Candi770]

Psalm 2 (King James Version)

1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

The enemy of Israel has no desire to consider peace, Iran/Palestinians will be under the control of Al Queda who want to control/destroy it. Sorry not Going to happen!!

"He sits in Heaven and Laughs!!

Blessings (shiloh)

Candi770

[Guest shiloh357]

But the true Church cannot of course ever be wrong.

Oh yes, it can and is. There are a lot of true Christians in the "true church" that have been wrong about a lot things, particularly related to restoration of Israel.

For what the Church binds here is bound in heaven,

That is does not apply to the Church. That phrase applied to rabbinic law when Jesus ordained his disciples as the Messianic leaders of the first congregation. It was spoken ONLY to the first disciples.

Christ Himself established this Church. . I think we need to be a little careful about how we speak of an institution which Christ Himself established.

The Church has no special immunity against criticism.

Of course humans do all sorts of crazy things, but the Christian Church the communion of true believers led by the Apostles, guided by the Holy Spirit and by scripture, which has spread this Gospel around the entire world, THAT Church will not persecute Israel or any country for that matter.

It has and it does. One only need to look at the infusion of Replacement Theology and the recent push for economic divestments against Israel.

If we say that the "true Church" will not persecute or in any way be atagonistic toward Israel, that would exclude many of the early church fathers upon whose teachings much modern theololgy is based. Many of them were viruently anti-Semitic and we would have to then explain how our theology can be founded on the teachings of nonChristians.

To act as if the Church is immune from criticism or is incapable of error cannot be scripturally defended and, therefore, is not a biblical assertion. It may sound good, but it is just not true.

[OneLight]

May I encourage you Brother by saying that the true Body is far less in numbers then those who attend church. In the last days, there will be a great falling away. I, for one, and I believe there are perhaps millions like me, will not turn our backs on Israel.

OneLight

[sweetycakes]

May I encourage you Brother by saying that the true Body is far less in numbers then those who attend church. In the last days, there will be a great falling away. I, for one, and I believe there are perhaps millions like me, will not turn our backs on Israel.

OneLight

Christians are, in my opinion, of necessity forever linked to Israel.

There is just no way they can not be, if they take the Bible as true.