Florida Pastor Issues 30-Day Sex Challenge for Congregation

[Guest LadyC]

their statement of beliefs is rather ambiguous isn't it? they don't really give much information as to what their doctrines are. i think i'll listen to some of their youtube broadcasts. so far i'm getting the impression that they've forgotten the all important biblical principal of being in the world but not OF the world.

and i certainly don't like the way they seem to be a-ok with premarital sex. outside of the 30 day challenge anyway.

[Guest LadyC]

i'm less impressed by the minute with this church, and with this pastor.

funny thing.... in one of the newscasts he said the Bible is fairly silent on the issue of sex (huh?????) but that he had found some scriptures in the old testament that SEEM to suggest that Jesus disapproves of premarital sex. (what Bible is he reading? MY bible is pretty darn CLEAR on the subject!) it is reported in that newscast that the pastor thinks daily sex will make men better husbands and that better husbands make better christians! (sounds a bit backward to me!) the newscast concludes with the anchor saying the pastor is a former baptist who started his church 3 years ago and markets his church by tackling controversial subjects. (i hate when people "market" christianity. that usually means they water it down to make it more appealing to people who don't want to be held accountable to God.)

[other one]

i'm less impressed by the minute with this church, and with this pastor.

funny thing.... in one of the newscasts he said the Bible is fairly silent on the issue of sex (huh?????) but that he had found some scriptures in the old testament that SEEM to suggest that Jesus disapproves of premarital sex. (what Bible is he reading? MY bible is pretty darn CLEAR on the subject!) it is reported in that newscast that the pastor thinks daily sex will make men better husbands and that better husbands make better christians! (sounds a bit backward to me!) the newscast concludes with the anchor saying the pastor is a former baptist who started his church 3 years ago and markets his church by tackling controversial subjects. (i hate when people "market" christianity. that usually means they water it down to make it more appealing to people who don't want to be held accountable to God.)

It might be helpful if you'd email him the scripture......

I thought this thread was a joke when I first read it..... this really isn't funny.

[Guest LadyC]

after watching some of their other videos, produced BY the church, i'm really too disgusted to email him. i'm sorry, but i don't think i'm capable of rebuking him in the spirit of love. one of the videos in particular was downright disgusting and wholly inappropriate for any single person to ever view. heck, it's not even appropriate for married couples to view.

[Treasure]

Yeah......ummmmm

[Marnie]

The church is actually right, according to 1 Cor. 7. Sex is not only part of marriage, according to Paul it is an obligation each spouse owes the other one. A healthy sex life is the best defense against sin in marriage.

[Treasure]

The thing that's most disturbing to me is that it's like a fast from sex for unmarried couples for 30 days.

[Guest LadyC]

The church is actually right, according to 1 Cor. 7. Sex is not only part of marriage, according to Paul it is an obligation each spouse owes the other one. A healthy sex life is the best defense against sin in marriage.

marnie, yes.... we are not to withhold sex from our MARRIAGE partner. however scripture doesn't require it to be every single night 365 days a year, and let's face it, many women (and men) prefer to abstain during the woman's monthly cycle.

the disturbing part is the challenge for UNMARRIED couples to abstain for 30 days. that church is way off base on this one. see my previous post describing the news spot and what the pastor had to say about it.

i would even suggest you go look up their videos and see how totally inappropriate and unglorifying to God some of them are (specifically the ones regarding sex)... but i'd prefer you didn't. i do not believe that any married woman (or unmarried for that matter) should be watching a church-produced video that shows a man singing in a semi-rap manner about having sex, and literally showing him strip down to his socks.

that church is way off base. the only part of their "challenge" that has any merit at all is to the married couples, and given the provacative nature of their videos, that's questionable. it is, in fact, being referred to as soft porn by youtube members.

[tsth]

What is the deal with the church's sex obsession???

Here's a sampling of a few of the churches programs:

CHARLOTTE SOUTH FELLOWSHIP IN MATHEWS, NORTH CAROLINA, featured a

five week series in February 2007 called

[Guest LadyC]

here is the bottom line.

should a church have serious discussions with their congregation regarding the beauty, the joy, and the GIFT of intimacy? absolutely.

but in CONTEXT, and with the appropriate audience.

it should not be a mixed congregation. there are appropriate ways to teach about sex to married couples, and those ways are different than how you need to speak to singles.

let me give an example. at a recent women's camp i attended, the guest speaker (invited by our church) gave a discussion on sex during the last day. i promise i was NOT the only person who complained about this "sermon", and i'm quite certain the guest speaker will not be invited back. if she is, i know i'm not the only one who will refuse to attend.

during that sermon she got a little carried away. she was discussing sex in a way that went beyond scriptural and was really a little too much information that i don't think any of us needed to hear about her personal intimate relationship with her husband.

it was more than i, as a married christian woman, cared to hear.

but aside from that, there were SINGLE women in the audience... some of whom were only about 18-20 years old. i can only imagine how this sermon got their minds racing.

i really don't have to imagine. one of my dear friends is twice-widowed. she is in her mid-50s and does not anticipate ever having another husband. she confessed to me several weeks later that since that sermon, she had been struggling very hard with sexual fantasies, and with a desire to read/watch pornographic material.

and to make things worse than it already was, one woman even had her young daughter in attendance. the little girl was about 7 or 8 years old. and she and her mother were sitting in the FRONT ROW.