Obama's speach today

[Oh Hamburgers!]

I find his whole campaign unsettling -- especially the way the media just worships the guy. The media is not doing its usually job of trying to dig up every skeleton from the closet they can when it comes to this guy. He is not the anti-christ, or any of that. He's just really really slick and knows how to hype a crowd. His speech today was more of the same -- lots of words, but did he really say anything meaningful?

Hillary is probably loving this, though. While everyone is looking at Obama no one is looking into her past either. That needs to change too.

I think its a stretch to assume the media worships Obama. Obviously the press is currently digging up those "skeletons" right now, considering how much media attention he has been receiving.

On the other hand, perhaps the reason that there hasn't been much dirt brought up about Obama directly means that he doesn't have that much dirt?

[Guest yod]

On the other hand, perhaps the reason that there hasn't been much dirt brought up about Obama directly means that he doesn't have that much dirt?

He doesn't have much history. He's a newcomer with no record and has absolutely zero experience in governing. And Americans want to give him the reigns of our nation?

We're dead if that happens. kaput. zilch. zip. gone

[O'Dannyboy]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politic...53.storygallery

They dug deep enough to find this. Surely they have found some dirt. They have simply elected to keep it to themselves. As many have said, several of the media outlets have been handeling him with kid cloves and have not, to date, called him to task on any inconsistancies. To his credit, he did face this racial issue head on. Even so he was not as thorough as many would have liked. On top of this the media has made it all about his pastors statements and not about his churches policies or about his "religious committee" stumping fr him from the potium. One thing is for sure. The services held by these committee members will be scrutinized.

[Rick-Parker]

On the other hand, perhaps the reason that there hasn't been much dirt brought up about Obama directly means that he doesn't have that much dirt?

Maybe they are waiting to see who gets the nomination. You can rest assured that during the election campaign, all the dirt will come out on both sides.

can we honestly judge the character of a man and his entire life's work from a lapse in judgement on the pulpit that occurred perhaps 3 or 4 times a decade? Again, no one is perfect, not even priests, pastors, reverends.

You mean from a repeated lapse of judgement, right? Words like his come from the heart, not from the brain. If you look at the speeches, Wright is reading from a written speech. That's call premeditated racism.

Hey, guess what? He was right!

Right about what? 9/11? Israel and South Africa? or Hillary?

Again, for the 3rd time, has anyone heard this "preacher" talk about forgiveness, love, salvation and repentence? The cornerstones of the Christian faith?

[Guest man]

Right out of the gate he starts ranting about race.

Two hundred and twenty one years ago, in a hall that still stands across the street, a group of men gathered and, with these simple words, launched Americas improbable experiment in democracy. Farmers and scholars; statesmen and patriots who had traveled across an ocean to escape tyranny and persecution finally made real their declaration of independence at a Philadelphia convention that lasted through the spring of 1787.

The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by this nations original sin of slavery, a question that divided the colonies and brought the convention to a stalemate until the founders chose to allow the slave trade to continue for at least twenty more years, and to leave any final resolution to future generations.

This man is dangerous. He spent 20 years in a racist church and he tells us he had no idea of their beliefs and people are just eating it up like it's the dessert of the day.

He has ties to the Nation of Islam........if you don't believe me, do some reseach.

This man is dangerous. He has no experience and he's running for this nations highest seat and the way things are looking, he's gonna get it.

You don't want this man running this country. Not with his track record.

[O'Dannyboy]

On the other hand, perhaps the reason that there hasn't been much dirt brought up about Obama directly means that he doesn't have that much dirt?

Maybe they are waiting to see who gets the nomination. You can rest assured that during the election campaign, all the dirt will come out on both sides.

can we honestly judge the character of a man and his entire life's work from a lapse in judgement on the pulpit that occurred perhaps 3 or 4 times a decade? Again, no one is perfect, not even priests, pastors, reverends.

You mean from a repeated lapse of judgement, right? Words like his come from the heart, not from the brain. If you look at the speeches, Wright is reading from a written speech. That's call premeditated racism.

Hey, guess what? He was right!

Right about what? 9/11? Israel and South Africa? or Hillary?

Again, for the 3rd time, has anyone heard this "preacher" talk about forgiveness, love, salvation and repentence? The cornerstones of the Christian faith?

I, for one, don't understand the focus on Wright when the entire congregation seemed to agree and subscribe to the same racial animous. Obama would have us believe he has simply been caught in the crossfire but 17+ years of listening to this kind of negative sentiment would inevitably take it's toll on anyone regardless of their race. The people at this church stomp around blaming white people for every disparity that exists in the world base on what they see happening in their little corner of it. The accuse White America of not doing enough in Africa despite the U.S. being the largest provider of Aid. They really need to wake up and take some responsibility.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Maybe they are waiting to see who gets the nomination. You can rest assured that during the election campaign, all the dirt will come out on both sides.

If that's true, then it certainly discredits the notion that the media is "going soft" on Obama, doesn't it?

can we honestly judge the character of a man and his entire life's work from a lapse in judgment on the pulpit that occurred perhaps 3 or 4 times a decade? Again, no one is perfect, not even priests, pastors, reverends.

You mean from a repeated lapse of judgment, right? Words like his come from the heart, not from the brain. If you look at the speeches, Wright is reading from a written speech. That's call premeditated racism.

That doesn't change my question. It is clearly a lapse in judgement, premeditated or not. Out of his 36 years as a pastor, do his rare sermons truly reflect the work he has done for the community?

Again, for the 3rd time, has anyone heard this "preacher" talk about forgiveness, love, salvation and repentence? The cornerstones of the Christian faith?

Towards the end of one of the controversial sermons, he begins to talk about love, but obviously that isn't added into the media's video clips.

But in general, no, I haven't heard him talk about forgiveness, love, salvation, and repentance. Do you want to know why? Because if I do a search on youtube, I just find the same 2 or 3 sermons repeated over, and over, and over again. Hmm, I wonder why there aren't any other sermons out there that show his message? Oh yeah, it's because these are the most radical sermons. He's been preaching for 36 years, you would think there would be somewhere that I could find "positive" tapes of his sermons. Or at least, if he was always so radical, and his message was always so hateful, you would think there were be much more to choose from, hmm?

The few sermons that are addressed are unacceptable, but we can't assume that Wright's message was always one of hatred, when we only have one (very limited) side of the story. In the same manner, discrediting Obama for "lacking judgment" is not something we can do when we've heard all of maybe 6 minutes of Wright, and Obama's been attending the church for about 20 years. It's in fact quite hypocritical of us to judge a pastor based on 6 minutes, and then claim that Obama lacked judgment.

[O'Dannyboy]

It's in fact quite hypocritical of us to judge a pastor based on 6 minutes, and then claim that Obama lacked judgment.

I don't believe we are all judging him. Most of us are simply admitting the possibility that these outbursts are not as isolated or random as some would have us believe. That being a possibility, what would this say about Obama and are we willing to risk having him as president? I know I'm not.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

It's in fact quite hypocritical of us to judge a pastor based on 6 minutes, and then claim that Obama lacked judgment.

I don't believe we are all judging him. Most of us are simply admitting the possibility that these outbursts are not as isolated or random as some would have us believe. That being a possibility, what would this say about Obama and are we willing to risk having him as president? I know I'm not.

Obama has clearly stated that he doesn't agree with the sermons being shown in the media. He admitted that Wright was at times a controversial speaker. He did not defend the negative statements Wright has made. He directly confronted them and said they were wrong, and had a defeatist attitude.

So, what exactly are you afraid of if Obama becomes president? That he is going to rip off his shirt, take off a mask, and BEHOLD! He's actually Reverend Jeremiah Wright! Obama has clearly shown that he differs in opinion with much of Reverend Wright's opinions.

[O'Dannyboy]

For those who are not keeping pace. Here is is my previous post.

I, for one, don't understand the focus on Wright when the entire congregation seemed to agree and subscribe to the same racial animous. Obama would have us believe he has simply been caught in the crossfire but 17+ years of listening to this kind of negative sentiment would inevitably take it's toll on anyone regardless of their race. The people at this church stomp around blaming white people for every disparity that exists in the world base on what they see happening in their little corner of it. The accuse White America of not doing enough in Africa despite the U.S. being the largest provider of Aid. They really need to wake up and take some responsibility.