Prophecy of America

[Guest JDJ]

So be it GYPC. Notice there was never a time spoken thereof. We dont know what is going to happen in the future nor do we know what will happen in 5 seconds. Do what seems good to you. Every man will be given according to what he has done, no more, no less. Do you trust Yeshua? So why try and break His word and preserve this life by rendering evil for evil? Dont you trust Him?

[Catsmeow]

It depends on what you call, "evil". The care and protection of one's own family is God's perfect will, according to scripture.

It reminds me of this other guy who posts on here and tries to tell people they should leave their respective churches. He uses the scripture, "Come out of her, my people."

Remember that Satan also uses scripture to fight against us. Consider Satan's attack against our Lord Jesus in the dessert. He clearly used scripture, which Jesus refuted with other scripture.

Satan is adept at using scripture out of context to trip up those not firmly grounded in the Word.

We have to remember these are the days when evil men will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

I am very much aware of the times we're in. There are those who even frequent these boards who would try to convince you that the Day of the Lord has already come and gone. Some would try to tell you the Jews of today aren't really Jews in God's eyes...

Some would try to convince you of "Replacement Theology" ...that WE gentiles have replaced the Jews as the true Jews...and so on.

There's a ton of deception out there...and if you don't know your bible, you're gonna get swept away with all the deception.

Beware!..We're all accidents waiting to happen if we don't get grounded in the Word of God and know who we are in Christ.

[Guest JDJ]

Yes I know about World War 2. Im a history buff especially concerning the german side. They thought they were doing something great too, by exterminating the Jews because Hitler thought in his own mind that Jews killed Yeshua(CHrist). Ever read Mein Kampf, truly disturbing... Men didnt stop the german hordes the russian winter did. I tell you this my friend this country you love so much knew what Germany was doing for almost 3 years before they did anything about it.

Anti-Semetism reigned in the higher authority here too. Some of the so-called patriots of this country were Nazi-sympathizers. Ever hear of Lidbergh and Ford? As soon as money was promised you bet Ford changed his view and started production lines for tanks to fight the ones he used to sympathize with. Where do you think the automated factory assembly lines came into being from?

I also tell you this that Pearl Harbor was known of way BEFORE it happened. Our own Navy in three different mock scenarios in '28' & '30 & '32 proved that a Pearl Harbor was indeed a most frightening scenario that could be accomplished very easily. Did they listen? NO? They never do. WW1 was only 21 years prior to WW2 and did they change their tactics? NO! Not until our brave men died by the thousnands at the hands of seasoned professional Generals of the enemy. They lied to the men and said the Sherman tank was the best tank in the war before being proven. The men had to discover the horror of the German superiority in the battles after Operation Torch. Did she change and modify our tanks? NO! Not much.

Where I am I getting with this? Im telling you right now that this country lies like it is the truth and people suck it up. Have you read what Bush said about Reagan? This so-called Christian said Reagan helped SAVE the world!!!!!!!!! Take a closer look at what your defending my friend it certainly isnt G-d.

I too love our soldiers for their sacrifice in the past and present, but unfortunately alot of what their fighting for isnt what you think it is. I have experienced the armed forces first hand and I tell you now it isnt anything like it used to be. Times have changed quickly my friend and the country that G-d has blessed immensely has turned its back on Him.

[Catsmeow]

I have experienced the armed forces first hand and I tell you now it isnt anything like it used to be. Times have changed quickly my friend and the country that G-d has blessed immensely has turned its back on Him.

You're preachin' to the choir on this one! Look around and everywhere you see they've "kicked God out" of each and every institution .... from the hallls of education and higher learning to our governement buildings.

Our very heritage is being destroyed by the evil forces hidden behind the guise of societal powers and authorities...from the Board of Education to the Government we put in office by our vote.

[Guest JDJ]

It depends on what you call, "evil". The care and protection of one's own family is God's perfect will, according to scripture.

It reminds me of this other guy who posts on here and tries to tell people they should leave their respective churches. He uses the scripture, "Come out of her, my people."

Remember that Satan also uses scripture to fight against us. Consider Satan's attack against our Lord Jesus in the dessert. He clearly used scripture, which Jesus refuted with other scripture.

Satan is adept at using scripture out of context to trip up those not firmly grounded in the Word.

We have to remember these are the days when evil men will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

I am very much aware of the times we're in. There are those who even frequent these boards who would try to convince you that the Day of the Lord has already come and gone. Some would try to tell you the Jews of today aren't really Jews in God's eyes...

Some would try to convince you of "Replacement Theology" ...that WE gentiles have replaced the Jews as the true Jews...and so on.

There's a ton of deception out there...and if you don't know your bible, you're gonna get swept away with all the deception.

Beware!..We're all accidents waiting to happen if we don't get grounded in the Word of God and know who we are in Christ.

Did Yeshua hurt anybody or much less kill anyone? NO! We are to follow Him and not the world. Do as you think you must, but I am inclined to listen and understand than to be understood when it comes to my Lord and what He did. I know where Im going because Yehua said so, IF you follow Him. How can you honestly trust and not follow Him? His life and teachings were for us to imitate as much as we can with what G-d has given us to do this with. Considering it is the HOLY Spirit, Im inclined to follow it in all its Holiness in spirit and truth.

Stumble around all you want in your own perception of what is evil and what isnt. Yeshua has shown us how to walk. Hitler said all Jews were "evil" what is your perception on that? Yeshua is our example not ourselves or other men. Why do think the witnesses are coming? Because people who think they know better than Yeshua, thats why.

[Guest JDJ]

Cosidering WW2, Russia could have defeated Germany by herself. Why do you think we entered it? Among other reasons, but also probably the most attractive was their technology and not to mention the spoils of war that Hitler took from all the rich Jews that you see hanging in our museums today.

Edited June 6, 2004 by JDJ

[Catsmeow]

Well, I have listened to Charles Stanley in his position concerning war and the Christian and this very godly man has a very different position than you.

I am thankful we HAVE a military who defends our country. I hope you aren't married with children. It would be a shame they lack a head of household who would abandon his post and fail to protect and defend them.

It takes enormous courage to fight in this war...and we ARE at war. This is absolutely true...The difference is the war we fight isn't CARNAL..but spiritual and powerful in bringing down strongholds.

This dream, if it came from God, may be directed specifically toward you. I don't know what God may be dealing with in your life.

I have received a dream which clearly told me that carnal weapons won't win in this war...but weapons fought on our knees.

We must fight a good fight but I sense we're not called to run away but to fight an enemy with a very unique form of weapondry...spiritual weapons of warfare that can nip the enemy in the bud.

Satan is the true enemy...our advesary behind the scenes. He uses the Muslims and many other snares to entrap us but I would never abandon my country in it's time of need. That seems more of a deception.

There's somebody, (I mentioned this before) who would have people abandon their own churches...because he misunderstands scripture in context. I figure Satan would want us to split up and turn on ourselves like a cancer because when Christians are united in peace together, Satans' powers fold like cards.

We cannot fold like a house of cards or flee the scene. We have a duty to God and Country and part of that duty is to fight the evil of our days. Much of that is done on our knees and in witnessing to our neighbors.

We have a battle to fight and we use unique and potent weapons to do battle...

However, if our country tells the men to fight - I pray our men don't retreat in fear and cowardice. The enemy will surely dash our infants against the walls and butcher innocents everywhere.

I can't stand to stay and watch the carnage....if someone tries to cause harm to my family, I will surely attempt to defend them. To do less seems a far worse sin.

Those who fail to care for their own families are regarded as worse than unbelievers.

[Guest JDJ]

Fight the good fight, Cats. Not the one OF the world. Yeshua is the head of me AND my house if I had one. Who says the church will still be here when it happens. Your insults are greatly recieved thank you, I rejoice in this.

[Catsmeow]

Man are you sensitive! Geez, lighten up. We discussing - not insulting. I'm terribly sorry you were so offended. That wasn't my intention...and I appologize if I in any way hurt you. That wasn't my intention in the least.

I thought we were having a productive conversation and I agree with you on some matters, if you read all of what I wrote.

I just think it's a travesty anyone would not protect or defend their country. I myself am a woman veteran and was proud to serve my country.

I'm saddened that our society has abandoned both God and Country and attempt to defend neither one. This is why the Ten Commandments were taken out of our courtrooms; why prayer is taken from our schools.

Now we should abandon our country where we enjoy the freedom to worship? If we do that, JDJ...you will end up worshipping at a mosque instead of a church.

[Guest JDJ]

Read what you have just posted and listen to what the Spirit has to say.