jesussaves Posted May 2, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 210 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,144 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted May 2, 2008 Before he even steps foot in a college he needs the Masters degree...if he isn't called by the Lord to preach, no amount of education will give him the anointing he needs to pastor a church. Jeremiah 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasure Posted May 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,338 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 2, 2008 This has been beat to death here...and I recall being trounced by folks who don't think a Pastor should have any special education. My own personal conviction (me, not the Lord) is that the Pastor should be at least as educated as his congregation. In my last church, I was on the Pastor Search committee and our (educational) requirement was a minimum M.Div or equivalent because that particular congregation was highly educated. My present church is roughly the same demographic and my husband, also the pastor, has a Th.D. Which is handy, because they sure ask tough questions. When you consider the early church, while it is true the earliest of Pastors (Timothy Titus, Barnabas, Mark, Apollos) were not "seminary" educated, they weren't educational slouches, either. Some where trained by Paul, who was highly educated. Jesus Himself taught His Apostles, and He was a rabbi. So, I care a lot about the spiritual food I am being fed, and I prefer being fed by someone who is a "chef" and is able to prepare a spiritual feast, not somebody who is able only to toss a Swanson frozen dinner in the microwave. How can the church equip the saints if the leader of a particular congregation doesn't have the equipment himself? Well, most folks I know aspire to go up, not down. No doubt a preacher must know the bible enough to be able to teach from it. Having some business sense doesn't hurt if folks expect him to actually run the church. And most definately leadership qualities, and that usually coincides with an education. Clarify this please. The pastor isn't supposed to "run" the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted May 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 2, 2008 To go with education level, do you like a preacher that goes chapter by chapter and line by line or one who preaches topically? Expositional preaching is the only way to go. If I want to know the pastor's opinion, I'll ask him; I don't need to hear it from the pulpit. Most topical sermons become 30 minutes of opinion with scant Biblical references to proof-text that opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.19 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 2, 2008 Well, most folks I know aspire to go up, not down. No doubt a preacher must know the bible enough to be able to teach from it. Having some business sense doesn't hurt if folks expect him to actually run the church. And most definately leadership qualities, and that usually coincides with an education. Clarify this please. The pastor isn't supposed to "run" the church. I have come across churches where the Elders, or a board, make the rules and the Pastor follows. Not scriptural, but it is being done around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasure Posted May 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,338 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 2, 2008 Well, most folks I know aspire to go up, not down. No doubt a preacher must know the bible enough to be able to teach from it. Having some business sense doesn't hurt if folks expect him to actually run the church. And most definately leadership qualities, and that usually coincides with an education. Clarify this please. The pastor isn't supposed to "run" the church. I have come across churches where the Elders, or a board, make the rules and the Pastor follows. Not scriptural, but it is being done around here. It's dangerous for one person or even one group of people to have control over the church. The church that I came from, the pastor had total control and his salary came right off the top of what the church brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odditblue Posted May 2, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 220 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1966 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Well, you should at least have a couple of years of the preaching in the wilderness course. There you'll learn to wear camel skin and camel hair products properly. And you'll need to also brush up on your survival skills. The diet during the course consists of locusts and wild honey. Then there is the daily baptizing of all those who come to your wilderness spot near the Jordan river. But be careful that you don't lose your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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