Ford Motor Co to Destroy Electric Truck

[Snowdoove]

Greetings~

Ford Motor Company built 26 electric trucks to help the farmers in California.

These trucks could drive up to sixty miles an hour, with feed bags in the bed. When the charge was gone they just hooked it up to a battery and recharged it.

Ford Motor Company leased all 26 trucks out. This month they notified the farmer who had the 26th one. He is to turn the truck into the Company so the company can destroy it.

This shows that battery vechiles do work.

Now are you wondering why they are destroying this vechile!

This vechile doesn't run on GAS! No stopping at the gas station and pumping $2 +

a gallion into the tank.

The Oil Cartel doesn't want to see this kind of vechile on the market. There goes their big Money, if this vechile was marketd at a great scale.

This article was on the TV news this past week.

Snowdoove

[irishcowboy]

Which station aired this article?

there have been many many vehicles developed that either use no petrolium or very little petrolium to run....

one was the Waste Energy Resevour car, which ran about 100 miles to the quart.

mike

[WatchingForJesus]

It's true! They have had the technology to make carburators that allow 100+ miles per gallon for some time now. Imagine, 100 miles per quart. How much farther would our money go?

I think there is more than the oil cartel at work here. I wonder sometimes if the price of gas is what stimulates or slows down the economy, based on which direction the "powers that be" want it to go.

In other words. If the economy is looking like it going to run "too hot", all you have to do is raise the gas prices to slow it down. Almost everyone relies on gas consumption, either directly or indirectly.

I know that the Feds are supposed to regulate the economy with the interest rates, but I think the interest rates are more to slow down or speed up the stock market.

Just my 2 cents. But, it certainly makes you wonder. Our economy was sputtering when 9/11 happened, but it "was" sputtering in the upward direction. I think, based on Harry Dent's book, The Roaring 2000's, the economy was supposed to skyrocket in the 2000's literally to the point of the DOW JONES industrials reaching 40,000+.

I think that because of 9/11 the economy was held back, and almost like pulling a rubberband backward, it wants to go forward, but the tragedy of the horrific events held peoples spending back. Now, we are seeing the economy racing back, trying to make up for lost time. How, do I know this? If the economy wasn't screaming upward right now, the American people would be completely outraged by the recent skyrocketing gas prices. Yes, people are upset, but they haven't stopped consuming just as much gas as they were just prior to the major jump in prices.

So, this is what leads me to believe that the gas prices are what controls the speed of the economy. If the gas prices wouldn't have jumped the way they did, it's quite possible that the economy would have spun upward, out of control, causing too much chaos and pandemonium.

The same type of thing would have to happen if they were to allow mass production of these electric trucks, or those cars that get 100 miles to the quart. Gas prices would have to match those new, lower gas consumption rates and you would soon start to see gas prices reaching into the $7 to $8 per gallon range and maybe even more like $10.

Right now, those prices seem outrageous, but if we all started driving cars that got 4 or 5 times better gas milage, then the gas prices would HAVE to reflect that to keep the economy in check.

Just my 2 cent per gallon!

YBIC,

Bradley

[WayneB]

I remember some years ago when I worked for a glass bulb manufacturer, we as an industry were accused of destroying plans to produce a light bulb that would last a life time. Fact is that IF a perfect seal could be provided between the glass and the cap, the filament would never burn out (the filament burns out when leakage occurs and air comes in contact with it). BUT that ain't possible...not a perfect seal. The newer extended life light bulbs are great BUT they cost an arm and a leg and rightly so.

Any product can be improved but the old adage is really true...you get what you pay for and the closer a product gets to perfection, the higher the cost to produce and therefore the higher the selling price. Usually, the cost escalates exponentially.

We are the same. Jesus commanded us to be perfect just like the Father in Heaven is perfect

[nicholas]

This is nothing new.

In the 1950's we had carberators that could run 60-80 miles to the gallon.

hmmmm

Want to know what happened to the men that built it?

Well line up, their wives want to know the same thing.

[Ovedya]

First: OPEC is nothing more than an internationally approved cartel. In reality they are the legal equivalent of a drug cartel such as you would find in Mexico or Columbia.

Second: American oil companies and refineries have a major stake in the American economy.

Third: The autmobile manufacturers in this country have major league lobbyists who work 24/7 at the nation's capital. Not only that, they spend millions, if not, billions of dollars a year in advertising revenue.

Here is my opinion on the positives and negatives surrounding the varied issues involved with alternative energy (In no particular order):

Positive: It has been estimated that the world's oil aquifers (if you want to call them that) will be severely depleted in roughly 20 years.

Negative: As oil supplies decrease OPEC will increase the price of crude, American oil companies will subsequently increase their prices, and consumers will pay more at the pump. We actually see this happening now due to OPEC's decreasing production intentionally.

Also, massive layoffs in the automobile manufacturing and oil refining industries will result from increase costs. America will probably see the highest unemployment rate since the Depression.

Positive: Consumers will stop buying gas guzzling cars in favor of the smaller economy cars. Auto manufacturers will be forced to respond in kind by manufacturing more economy cars and cutting production of large inefficient fuel economy cars. This actually happened during the gas crisis in the mid 1970s.

Alternative energy research and development, which is currently coming out of its grass roots era, will see a huge increase in funding as auto manufacturers find newer and better ways of making fuel efficient cars (GM already has made a prototype run purely on hydrogen). Oil companies in America, and around the world, will be forced to abandon oil and diversify into alternative energy production (Such as hydrogen, for example), or else fall dead in the water.

OPEC will eventually be disbanded. OPEC production accounts for, I think, over half of all oil produced in the world. It is conceivable that as OPEC increases it's price of crude, purchasing countries will start to look to oil producers not in OPEC for a better deal. They would have to in order to save their own economies. OPEC would have to, A) Increase production in order to compete or, B) Disband and it's every man for himself. Either way, the scarcer supplies get, the more likely it is that OPEC would disband.

That's the way I see it anyway. More positives than there are negatives.

In the same vein, check this out: The Quest for Overunity. This really works! Yet strangely no one knows exactly how.

[Cerran]

100 Miles per quart has been around a long time but the problem on a standard combustion engine is that you can't just slap a new carburetor on it and have it get that kind of mileage, the vehicle and engine have to be designed around it as well. People are stuck on having more power and more power translates into less Miles per Gallon.

The future for now is Hybrid electric and eventually electric/fuel cell. Remember, the power when you plug a electric car into the wall is most likely generated by some type of fossil fuel, usually coal sometimes natural gas

[WayneB]

Saints,

Just for the record, I am by no way an expert. I, like you, read and listen to various reports from reliable sources and then form my opinion based on what sounds most credible. One source of information I have grown to trust is the Kiplinger Newsletter, an excellect source of credible and well-reseached material.

Regarding the current problems associated with rising prices at the pump, they produced an excellent article on the subject. I offer a few excerpts from the article for you.

We may blame OPEC but OPEC really isn't the problem:

Oil supply actually isn't a problem right now because members of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) continue to cheat on their total oil production quota of 23.5 million barrels a day by about 2.5 million barrels a day. Other factors are driving the oil market, even though oil-consuming countries tend to point the finger at OPEC. John Kilduff, senior vice president with Fimat U.S.A., a commodities-trading firm, says that the oil market is traumatized by terrorists' growing sophistication in choosing economic targets, notably in the petroleum sector.

The real problem is ----

Even if the oil risk premium fades, gasoline faces its own supply issues that will keep gas prices elevated. Since 1980, the number of U.S. refineries has plunged from 319 to 144, and total fuel-making capacity has dropped from 18.1 million barrels a day to 16.8 million. To keep production from falling further, refineries are spending heavily on maintenance and replacement parts so they can operate virtually around the clock, 365 days a year. This has greatly increased the likelihood of equipment failures and hence supply volatility.

To fill the supply gap, the U.S. has stepped up gasoline imports from virtually nil in 1980 to about half a million barrels a day, or 6% of consumption, now. Dependence on imports tends to raise gas prices because of added shipping and distribution costs as well as the increased danger of supply disruptions. For example, unrest in Venezuela, which supplies up to 50% of U.S. gasoline imports, drove the price from $1.36 a gallon in December 2002 to $1.73 in mid-March 2003.

U.S. environmental laws are making it more difficult and more expensive for refiners to meet domestic gasoline needs. The dramatic reduction in refineries since 1980 parallels the adoption of stricter requirements on emissions and chemical and hazardous waste that began in the mid-1970s. Faced with federal mandates that refiners do costly environmental upgrades when planning major overhauls, operators shut down plants rather than spend more. The last new U.S. refinery was built in 1976. The decline in refining capacity hasn't ended. Shell has announced that it will shutter a Bakersfield, Calif., refinery by Sept. 30 because it's no longer economical to run.

Refiners have to distill about 30 gasoline blends to meet varying clean air standards for regions, states and cities. It costs more to make smaller batches of so-called boutique blends, which can be sold only to gas station operators in given areas.

Excerpts from a Kiplinger article: Oil, Gasoline to Remain Pricey: By Jim Ostroff, May 4, 2004

Now you know the rest of the story.

Regarding the initial post, there is no major conspiracy We may have the technology but if the consumer is unwilling to pay the price, what good is it?

My thoughts,

Wayne

[Snowdoove]

Greetings~

This past year my grandson Shane was given one of those battery run Scooters.

Who knows maybe in the near future more households will buy one.

For people who live close to their shopping malls, it would be great.

Sure, it won't stop the rise of gasoline, yet it might just be the thing needed to keep America Smiling!

Snowdoove

[irishcowboy]

something else to think about......

around here, you would be surprised to know how many people use golf carts...

alot of the older sect are getting those little sit down scooters to get around in.....

both the golf carts and the scooters are electric.... ( althou there are some gas powered golf carts, most have electric )

something to think about..... best check with the local law enforcement to make sure that you wont get in trouble with a golf cart on the public roads .......

mike