ayin jade Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 28, 2008 The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), bitterly divided over sexuality and the Bible, set up another confrontation Friday over its ban on ordaining non-celibate gays and lesbians. The denomination's General Assembly, meeting in San Jose, Calif., voted 54 percent to 46 percent Friday to drop the requirement that would-be ministers, deacons and elders live in "fidelity within the covenant of marriage between and a man and a woman, or chastity in singleness." (snip) Of equal importance to advocates on both side of the debate, the assembly also voted to allow gay and lesbian candidates for ordination to conscientiously object to the existing standard. Local presbyteries and church councils that approve ordinations would consider such requests on a case-by-case basis. (snip) Another vote Friday signaled the church was not eager to change another institution. The assembly voted 77 percent to 33 percent to preserve the church's definition of marriage as a covenant between "a man and a woman," rather than changing it to "two people." Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted June 28, 2008 This news should not shock or surprise anyone. The church from it's inception has been compromising and changing our G-d's laws and commandments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmac Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 290 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/21/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 28, 2008 This news should not shock or surprise anyone. The church from it's inception has been compromising and changing our G-d's laws and commandments. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. So now the Presbyterian's are evil? I'd like to know what fraction of Christianity is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Imperfections and direct defilements of Scripture are two entirely different things, chapmac. You should know the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmac Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 290 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/21/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Imperfections and direct defilements of Scripture are two entirely different things, chapmac. You should know the difference. I was speaking on the generalization of the Presbyterian church as a whole. It is pretty offensive to make a comment blasting a church since its inception like that, and you should know that. Edited June 28, 2008 by chapmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tah Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,131 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/12/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 28, 2008 Gosh ...I thought I read the words "The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.),".... In the last days... we should not be surprised at the death in our culture as we are dead in our trespasses and sins until we are born again.. Something that brings me comfort in these days of mans inhumanity to man and the complete moral decline of not just our culture but in the so called church ... Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. All mankind is in this condition.. All creation... Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. Maranatha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelite Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/21/1948 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Gosh ...I thought I read the words "The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.),".... In the last days... we should not be surprised at the death in our culture as we are dead in our trespasses and sins until we are born again.. Something that brings me comfort in these days of mans inhumanity to man and the complete moral decline of not just our culture but in the so called church ... Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. All mankind is in this condition.. All creation... Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. Maranatha!! AMEN, IT is really sad when Churches are dividing because of Compromise, and it is really sad when we have to defend the marriage covenant between a man and a woman, In the Book of Genesis it says, God created Adam and he did not want him to be alone, so he created a WOMAN, NOT A MAN FOR ADAM, THIS WORLD IS GOING TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET BECAUSE OF COMPROMISE. ALL I CAN SAY IS KEEP LOOKING UP FOR OUR REDEMPITON DRAWEITH NIGH. PARDON MY CAPS, IT IS REALLY SAD THAT THE U S A, IS NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN NATION, WOE TO AMERICA - YSIC LITTLELITE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Who would expect other from a denomination in the possession of the anti-christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Imperfections and direct defilements of Scripture are two entirely different things, chapmac. You should know the difference. I was speaking on the generalization of the Presbyterian church as a whole. It is pretty offensive to make a comment blasting a church since its inception like that, and you should know that. OK - I see what you were saying. My apologies. I had the impression you were defending the Presbyterians position, to which I felt angry about, and clouded my perception on what was spoken. I knee-jerk reacted rather than carefully considering the fine details of the posts. Again, my apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmac Posted June 28, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 290 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/21/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 28, 2008 Imperfections and direct defilements of Scripture are two entirely different things, chapmac. You should know the difference. I was speaking on the generalization of the Presbyterian church as a whole. It is pretty offensive to make a comment blasting a church since its inception like that, and you should know that. OK - I see what you were saying. My apologies. I had the impression you were defending the Presbyterians position, to which I felt angry about, and clouded my perception on what was spoken. I knee-jerk reacted rather than carefully considering the fine details of the posts. Again, my apologies. No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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