hippo's hope is HIM Posted May 17, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 111 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 775 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/12/1987 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Matthew 10 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted May 18, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted May 18, 2004 Israel where and are the descendants of Abraham. Now Abrahams act of faith by being willing to sacrifice His only son won for His descendants the first opportunity to accept The Salvation of the Messiah. It is clear that wherever the disciples went they preached the Word to the jews first in the synagogues and then to the gentiles. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Romans 2:10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. In the end it does not matter if you are jewish or not, by accepting The Messiah Jesus we become His Children All Praise The Ancient Of Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforJesustheLord Posted May 18, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 557 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1976 Share Posted May 18, 2004 In the natural before EL set up His N.C., Jesus said His purpose was to only go to Israel in the natural, then after He suffered, died, and rose again on the third Yom(day), He was able to set up new teachings. Grace, and peace to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 There are many verses that talk about Israel. What was up with Israel??? Why was it different?? Israel was and is different because God has a Covenant with Israel. It is an unbreakable and eternal Covenant. Unfortunately that causes no small degree of consternation among Christians who feel that they must do their best to marginalize and diminish Israel's importance. Replacement theology has done almost irrevocable damage to the spreading of the gospel to the Jewish people. The ridiculous and biblically indefensible notion that God replaced Israel with the church is more rampant in the Church today than ever before. God chose Israel to be His people, and to be an evangelistic arm to reach the world unto Himself. Israel, according to Scripture, will fulfill that purpose. Israel will one day, according to Scripture see who the Messiah is. Unfortunately, it will not be because of the Church. The Church has done little to bring the gospel to the Jews, and in many cases has driven them from it. That is just the cold hard facts. Israel is the apple of God's eye. It is His precious nation. His hand is upon Israel today. He has restored them as a nation, and is in the process of restoring the Kingdom in Israel again. We see this Kingdom restored in the last days in the last 9 chapters of Ezekiel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo's hope is HIM Posted May 19, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 111 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 775 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/12/1987 Author Share Posted May 19, 2004 God chose Israel to be His people, and to be an evangelistic arm to reach the world unto Himself. Israel, according to Scripture, will fulfill that purpose. God just randomly picked Israel??? What made Israel the apple of God's eye. This is my confusion. Out of everything else, what made Israel so important to God?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted May 19, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted May 19, 2004 Bless you sister, Ex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted May 19, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted May 19, 2004 God just randomly picked Israel??? What made Israel the apple of God's eye. This is my confusion. Out of everything else, what made Israel so important to God?? Beth - Are you familiar with the covenant God made to Abraham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 My good friend Nebula brings up an excellent point. God made a covenant with Abraham; a covenant of blood. You can read about this covenant in Gen. 15. God had Abraham literally slice some animals in half down the back. The animals were lined up single file. The halves were layed opposite one another creating a "walkway of blood" in between the rows of animal halves. It was a common covenant making process that Abraham would have been very familiar with. In the ancient Middleast and quite possibly today, a blood covenant is the most serious form of agreement you can make. God made a covenant of blood with Abraham to demonstrate to him, in terms he could understand, that God Himself was quite serious about what He promised to do. A blood covenant is completely unbreakable except upon death. To break a blood covenant was to forfeit your own life. You did not make a blood covenant unless you were SURE you could keep your end. The interesting difference between this blood covenant and the way it was performed was that usually both people involved in the covenant had to walk between the animal halves. In this case, only God walked between the halves, and proclaimed the covenant. This means that God and God alone was responsible for making the covenant and keeping it. God made many promises to Abraham about his future and the future of his descendants. God promised to make of Abraham a mighty nation. Of course, we realize that this has both physial and spiritual applications. The point is that God knew when He made the covenant with Abraham, how Israel would rebel and sin against Him and His Law. None of that took God by surprise. Why does God keep holding on to Israel? Because of His Name. God will not have His Name blasphemed. If God gave up on Israel the way so many wish that He would, it would show that He is a promise breaker, and cannot be trusted. Think of it this way. If God had let go of Israel when they made the golden calf, or when they belly-ached in the wilderness, or when they worshipped Baal, then how would you have any confidence that he would hold on to you? It is because God was faithful to Israel inspite of their sinning over and over again, that you can know that God will be faithful to you and that He will not throw you away when you sin. God does not love and treasure Israel because Israel is good. He loves and treasures Israel because HE is good, and His mercy endures forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 there are many cases of God telling of the things He was going to do with Israel simply because He had promised Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob these things. In other words, He was doing it for His Name's sake....that all the Earth would know that there is a God is Israel. That there would be seen a distinct difference between Him and the gods of Eygpt. This identifies Him more than anything else as THE ancient of days. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob...and He is faithful to perform all of His word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted May 20, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2004 God chose Israel to be His people, and to be an evangelistic arm to reach the world unto Himself. Israel, according to Scripture, will fulfill that purpose. God just randomly picked Israel??? What made Israel the apple of God's eye. This is my confusion. Out of everything else, what made Israel so important to God?? Hi Hippo ) Don't think of it as God picking isreal think of it a s God picking Abraham. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to God because of his great faith. (God sacraficed His only Son to save the faithfull too ) Now we don't know what would have happened if Abraham had not been willing to sacrifice his son? maybe God would have found another man somewhere else and tried again. maybe God had tried a few men before Abraham??? it is not recorded and this is just speculation but Abraham did demonstrate his great faith to God and the promise made to Abraham will be forfilled because Abraham remained faithful. All Praise The Ancient Of Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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