A person before crucified in Christ

[Guest shiloh357]

When a person starts to believe that is what many scriptures are referring to, and that is when someone will not be ashamed as the scriptures say, but we are all still commanded to serve God to have fruit in ourselves, and to lift up Christ so that He will, and can draw all to Himself, the other understanding we are getting is a deeper understanding it is going in the understanding of we must repent, otherwise those who do not continually build upon Christ, they will not recieve a reward, and they shall be saved yet so as through fire 1 Cor. 3:11-15, and that means they will have to go into the fire for a while then after their judgement they will be able to come out if they have believed in Jesus Christ, and then learn to obey The Father Jesus Christ, and will eventually be able to go into the city when they obey the Good News.

[Goldpearl]

If one has not accepted Jesus Christ as Savior at the time of one's death, tragically there will be no reconciliation with Christ later. Read and study The Word of God.

Blessings, Goldpearl

[Guest shadow2b]

compasskid--comment--

-I hear a lot of people taking this passage out of context. They use it as their scapegoat to staying in sin. We constantly hear about a system, a system setup by the churches and human doctrines. How we continue to lust, but we must repent and then we will lust again. How we continue to lie, but we must repent and then we lie again. How we continue to gossip, but must repent and then we gossip again. This is our cycle they say; and they use the above passage to support it.

But what Paul did in the above passage is explain a person that hasn't been crucified in Christ. And if we are in unity with Christ in His death then we are also unified with Him in His life. The life that came back from death. The risen life.

So if you read the next few verses...

-lordsportion-- comment--

---It is a crying shame when anyone chooses any scripture to use as an opportunity for sin. But then again most religions were created by people who were allready inbedded in their particular sin and chose those scriptures that make what they are doing ok. The scriptures are there and they tell the whole story. There are very few ears who can hear it. this is by the LORDS design everything has to come to what he planned.

-YA KNOW CKID??-IT  would seem as if everyone BUT YOU takes scripture out of context...I'VE  seen you say this several times but IN actuality your lill--ole--sin-free life doctrine is built on sand--& muddy water...---

-IT also would seem as tho YOU & your lill--ole--buddy lordsportion just love ta run around these boards starting new-threads---new--topics--& have not even--tried to join in discussions on topics that have already been started-----WHY??is that CKID???--NO interest in what others are discussing????Possibly you rather love ta start your own lill-ole topics that can promote your-- sin--free-live--doctrine----IS that a pretty accurate statement OR fair question??huhh??huhh??huhh??huhhh??

-IT has become VERY-INteresting watching you dudes post on these boards------

-NOT very Enlightening---just interesting in the fact that it does seem a mite odd--

--strange--weird---possibly UNscriptural??hmmmmmm???ahhhhhhh--WeLLLL,,,I don't much think ANYONE is buying into your slightly "Twisted doctrine??-

- ---Wonder how much longer it's gonna last???

[Guest Calamity]

When a person starts to believe that is what many scriptures are referring to, and that is when someone will not be ashamed as the scriptures say, but we are all still commanded to serve God to have fruit in ourselves, and to lift up Christ so that He will, and can draw all to Himself, the other understanding we are getting is a deeper understanding it is going in the understanding of we must repent, otherwise those who do not continually build upon Christ, they will not recieve a reward, and they shall be saved yet so as through fire 1 Cor. 3:11-15, and that means they will have to go into the fire for a while then after their judgement they will be able to come out if they have believed in Jesus Christ, and then learn to obey The Father Jesus Christ, and will eventually be able to go into the city when they obey the Good News.

[AllforJesustheLord]

I believe that whomsoever believes that Jesus Christ, is the Only Begotten Son of God, and that He was resurrected, and lives, in this life, will not be ashamed. The understanding of eternal judgement speaks of those who believe, completely, by having fruit this shows there faith is pure, and is love, and those who believe, but do not chose to follow Christ, they will not be ashamed either eventually God will make the judgements, as long as they do not receive the Mark of The beast, or blaspeme The Holy Spirit. If someone does not have a chance to hear The Good News, I think God will ask them when they die, either through Christ, and/or by His servants, maybe The Father will ask, I do not know, I think The Father will not Himself ask though, but just, because I think that does not mean I am correct. I think children that did not have a chance to hear the good news, and the children who did not have the ability to understand good, and evil they will be blessed by God, and if they can understand good, and evil, I consider they will be asked by God, or His servant(s), if they believe in The MeSHiaCH(Messiah, Masih, Christ, Christo, Christos). If people had a chance to hear The Good News, and they refused Christ, they will be punished forever I believe.