Saved From The Worst But Kept From The Best?

[Rick-Parker]

It is...So was she saved?

That seems to be between her and God. I don't believe that the Word tells us. One thing that we do know is that she disobeyed God's instructions for remaining safe as they left the city. Ok now, will you tell me what this has to do with the topic at hand?

[LadyRaven]

I have a question.

Was Lots wife saved?

Scripture does not reveal her eternal destination, therefore it is not ours to guess. The secret things of God belong to Him alone, what He wants us to know He will tell us. Same goes for Judas, we don't know if he ever repented either. We know he regretted a good bit, but we don't know if he did anything spiritually about it (it can take a long time to die hanging oneself, he may have or may not have chosen to use that time to repent). There are actually few people we know the eternal destiny of in scripture. Most of them are listed in Hebrews. I think there is a good reason for that. It's not for us to determine, beyond a certain point, who is and who is not saved.

As to the subject at hand,

I believe the person's critique to be right on target, or it is as much as I can understand on pain killers. the author was off in deep probing left field, it's a works based thing in new clothing.

[Rick-Parker]

I'm not talking about her eternal destination, so I will rephrase the question for clarity. Was Lots wife judged with the judgement of Sodom, and Gomarrah.

Also what does Sodom and Gomarrah typify?

There is a reason to this line of questions bear with me.

Why don't you just make your point instead of playing 20 questions?

[Guest]

I'm not talking about her eternal destination, so I will rephrase the question for clarity. Was Lots wife judged with the judgement of Sodom, and Gomarrah.

Also what does Sodom and Gomarrah typify?

There is a reason to this line of questions bear with me.

OK

I'll Play

No! Lot's Sweetheart Was Salted Not Fired

But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

Genesis 19:26

And Sodom And Gomarrah Were Full Of Pride And Food And Free Time But Loveless Toward The Helpless And The Hopeless

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Ezekiel 16:49

Flee The Wrath To Come - Believe

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:36

And Don't Look Back!

[Xan]

I'm not talking about her eternal destination, so I will rephrase the question for clarity. Was Lots wife judged with the judgement of Sodom, and Gomarrah.

Also what does Sodom and Gomarrah typify?

There is a reason to this line of questions bear with me.

I understand your line of questioning and how it does apply to the topic.

Pre-Christ, people were "saved" by looking forward to the Messiah. While it's clear her people did not know God, it is possible she knew Him through her husband, but the Bible never said if she did or not. But we do know she loved her wicked city, and the Bible tells us that if we love the world, then the love of the Father is not in us. At the moment she looked back, she chose her city over her husband's God.

However, I think you're wrong about trying to tie her situation with post-Messiah Christians, and a clear understanding of grace and God's will reveals that this "well known Christian author" is clearly in the wrong in his assertion.

[Guest shiloh357]

I'm not talking about her eternal destination, so I will rephrase the question for clarity. Was Lots wife judged with the judgement of Sodom, and Gomarrah.

Also what does Sodom and Gomarrah typify?

There is a reason to this line of questions bear with me.

I understand your line of questioning and how it does apply to the topic.

Pre-Christ, people were "saved" by looking forward to the Messiah. While it's clear her people did not know God, it is possible she knew Him through her husband, but the Bible never said if she did or not. But we do know she loved her wicked city, and the Bible tells us that if we love the world, then the love of the Father is not in us. At the moment she looked back, she chose her city over her husband's God.

However, I think you're wrong about trying to tie her situation with post-Messiah Christians, and a clear understanding of grace and God's will reveals that this "well known Christian author" is clearly in the wrong in his assertion.

Thank you sister for taking the time to respond. I would actually would like to as a few more questions, but I would like to say this first. We must understand that though Lots wife was "before" Christ; (as in human living), and her situation was literal, it is also a type. Our Lord tells us to "remember Lot's wife"...Why?

Well first let us be convinced that she was saved. If we dont realize this then the prayer of Abraham, is of none effect. God will not judge the righteous with the wicked. The fact is Lots wife was not judged with Sodom. She was spared that judgement, and futher more not of her own righteousness, but of God.

Now since she was saved, and was not judged with the judgement of Sodom...what was she judged as?

Also, what should we consider that judgement?

1. She WAS judged with Sodom and Ghommorah. She was judged at the same time God was judging them and she was judged for looking back.

2. How do you know she was not wicked?

3. She evidently was not saved as she ended up a pillar of salt. She simply wasnt' judged in the cities, but she was judged along with them. I don't see where you can make the case that she was "saved" from anything.

4. She was not a "type" and the Bible does not hold her up as a type.

[Rick-Parker]

ruck1b, please state clearly what this had to do with the topic at hand or start your own topic. Thanks.

[Guest shiloh357]

ruck1b, please state clearly what this had to do with the topic at hand or start your own topic. Thanks.

Brother, as I said before, bear with me. I really dont want to start a topic of my own because the questions have to do with this topic. All I can hope is that you or someone else searches out what I'm asking.

Just get to the point. Your initial questions have been answered. We can't "search"out what you're saying because we have no idea what your point is.

Either make your point, answer the questions put to you, or just leave the thread as it is bad ettiquette to disrespect the wishes of the OP.

[LadyRaven]

Well... we're waiting...

and waiting

and finally we just

[Xan]

Ruck1b, I believe Shiloh answered your questions.