Saved From The Worst But Kept From The Best?

[Rick-Parker]

ruck1b, please state clearly what this had to do with the topic at hand or start your own topic. Thanks.

Brother, as I said before, bear with me. I really dont want to start a topic of my own because the questions have to do with this topic. All I can hope is that you or someone else searches out what I'm asking.

You question has been answered yet you continue to act as though it is not the answer you were seeking. Please, get to your point and stop trying to hijack this thread.

edit: perhaps if you get to your point, it will stimulate the discussion that you are seeking.

[Guest shiloh357]

As was stated Lots wife was saved.

Correction: As YOU stated.

As was stated Lots wife was saved. She was not judged with Sodom, who for wickedness and lack of righteous people was not spared the wrath of fire and brimestone from Heaven.

Was Lot's wife judged with this judgement?

Yes she was. The actual means of judgment was different beause she was turned into a pillar of salt. But the fact was when she looked back, it represented her love for Sodom. Her heart was still in Sodom.

She was not saved, but was consumed in the judgment along with Sodom and Ghomorrah.

I don't really see how you think being killed and turned into a pillar of salt represents salvation.

[Xan]

She was not judged while in Sodom because God, in His grace, had allowed her to get out on account of her husband. She was not saved on account of Lot, but she was spared because of him, which are two very clear and distinct things. She, however, was judged for her love of Sodom while Sodom reaped its judgement from the Lord. The people of Sodom were punished for their wickedness, and so was Lot's wife.

Ruck, I know you are trying to make a case for Lot's wife as being saved so you can attempt to "show" us that the author mentioned in the OP is either correct or has a valid point. Without being able to make that case, you will not be able to prove the author is correct because, in fact, he has no understanding of salvation or God's grace. I have no idea if you actually believe what the author stated or if you are playing devil's advocate, but I sincerely hope you come to an understanding of God and His ultimate plan of salvation if you haven't already. I will be more than happy to discuss this with you if you are willing.

[Rick-Parker]

As was stated Lots wife was saved. She was not judged with Sodom, who for wickedness and lack of righteous people was not spared the wrath of fire and brimestone from Heaven.

Was Lot's wife judged with this judgement?

I would like to add something. I am not attempting to hijack the thread. I just desire to fellowship with my brothers and sisters. I dont know what else to do. I can't approach what needs to be said any other way.

Yes you can. Just come out and say what it is that you want to say. This game of tag you want to play (or bait and switch) only serves you and not the discussion. If you can't do that, I will close the thread. Thanks.

[Rick-Parker]

The Bible study was about: "I believe that most Christians who get to heaven will be seriously disappointed." I fail to see the connection with what you wasn't to talk about. Unless you can convince me of it's connection, I would prefer that you start another thread. Thanks.

[Guest]

The Bible study was about: "I believe that most Christians who get to heaven will be seriously disappointed."....

Seriously?

Heaven Is Where Our Love Is

For He Is The Treasure Of Our Heart

And Believers Know The Joy God Has For Us

Shorty

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

1 Corinthians 2:9

With Joy

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:24-25

The LORD Will Save

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thessalonians 4:16

And We Love Him So

[Xan]

The Bible study was about: "I believe that most Christians who get to heaven will be seriously disappointed." I fail to see the connection with what you wasn't to talk about. Unless you can convince me of it's connection, I would prefer that you start another thread. Thanks.

Rick, have you read my responses to ruck1b? I think I have stated what his assertion is and how it relates to the OP. According to his responses to me, it would seem that I have.

[Rick-Parker]

The Bible study was about: "I believe that most Christians who get to heaven will be seriously disappointed."....

Seriously?

Heaven Is Where Our Love Is

For He Is The Treasure Of Our Heart

And Believers Know The Joy God Has For Us

Shorty

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

1 Corinthians 2:9

With Joy

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:24-25

The LORD Will Save

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thessalonians 4:16

And We Love Him So

Joe, that quote I gave was in the book and the author of the Bible study was addressing it. I, in no way, shape or form agree with the unnamed author. That is what the topic is about.

The Bible study was about: "I believe that most Christians who get to heaven will be seriously disappointed." I fail to see the connection with what you wasn't to talk about. Unless you can convince me of it's connection, I would prefer that you start another thread. Thanks.

Rick, have you read my responses to ruck1b? I think I have stated what his assertion is and how it relates to the OP. According to his responses to me, it would seem that I have.

Xan, I saw your postings. I don't recall that ruck acknowledged your posts and seemed to still be playing cat and mouse. He still hasn't cleared up, to my satisfaction, how the two topics are related. Sorry if I'm dense.

[Xan]

Oh well, he started his own. It's for the best.

[Guest]

Joe, that quote I gave was in the book and the author of the Bible study was addressing it. I, in no way, shape or form agree with the unnamed author. That is what the topic is about.

Amen Dear Brother Amen!

Forgive Me If I Gave The Impression That I Could Think Such A Thing Of You.