Why can Satan never be redeemed?

[exrockstar]

there are so many..where does one start?

for one there will be mortality in the 1000 years so automatically that means free-will. One still has the choice to choose right from wrong. Satan is locked up remember.

Because there is mortality (which includes right and wrong) there has to be a form of heavenly government in place to enforce laws.

My question had nothing to do with the 1000 years.

You stated that there would still be sin after satan was gone.

I would like to see where it says that in the bible.

Keep in mind that when Satan is gone...there will still be sin.

you obviously dont see that Satan is locked and people still need a heavenly goverment to rule over them.

good luck and dont let satan make you lose sleep over this.

[Guest man]

you obviously dont see that Satan is locked and people still need a heavenly goverment to rule over them.

Rev. 20

3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished.

Can you produce those scriptures or not?

[exrockstar]

Can you produce those scriptures or not?

"to deceive the nations" is not about making the nations to cause sin.

do you use a Strongs or some sort of Hebrew/Greek translator? you should invest in one. It would even be good to take the time to

invest in a study bible.

All of them point to the same conclusion. "Deceive the nations" is to make the nations rebel against God.

That is why the next verse shows them do just that. It is not about Satan making people sin.

Anyways thanks for the conversation. You have not accepted that Satan turned on God and didnt show how he tempted himself.

You have rejected to see that there will be a heavenly government assisting and enforcing law in the 1000 year reign. Now

youre showing me verses that do not mean what you interpret them to say.

Thanks again and may God bless your studies.

[Guest man]

Can you produce those scriptures or not?

"to deceive the nations" is not about making the nations to cause sin.

Satan causes sin. He was locked away so he could not deceive the nations.

do you use a Strongs or some sort of Hebrew/Greek translator? you should invest in one. It would even be good to take the time to invest in a study bible.

All of them point to the same conclusion. "Deceive the nations" is to make the nations rebel against God.

What do you think sin is?

It's rebeling against God........that is what sin is.

That is why the next verse shows them do just that. It is not about Satan making people sin.

Here is the next verse.

Rev. 20

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Care to point out where nations are being deceived here?

You'll have to help me out here, because I don't see it.

Anyways thanks for the conversation. You have not accepted that Satan turned on God and didnt show how he tempted himself.

You have rejected to see that there will be a heavenly government assisting and enforcing law in the 1000 year reign.

If this is what the conversation was about, I would have given what you asked.

I wouldn't dance around the issue and try to change the subject. I would back up my words, and if I couldn't, I would be mature enough to say so.

Now youre showing me verses that do not mean what you interpret them to say.

That's funny, because your interpretation was the same as mine. Rebelion against God.

Thanks again and may God bless your studies.

He already has.

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(exrockstar @ Oct 16 2008, 04:11 PM)

Keep in mind that when Satan is gone...there will still be sin.

Are you ever going to get to this?

Using your Strongs and your Hebrew/Greek translator and your study bible, you should be able to come up with something.

Just one verse. You said there were so many, I'll settle for just one verse that states sin will still be present when satan is no more.