Jesus, Very God, Very Man

[sweet~lady]

The scriptures are just a portion of Christ's walk on earth. We do not know what was not recorded. In His full 33yrs on earth. But this scripture vs. 3 implies that God sent his son in the flesh to absorb the sins of the world at that time. Therefore, at his baptism with John, Christ also cleansed himself in the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

So, I think you and you're husband are correct in this topic.

[sweet~lady]

Also Solman within the pages of Scripture we are given everything we need to know about Christ and

things pertaining to life and godliness. I don't concern myself with what is not written. I have enough trouble trying to figure out what is !

But I must say that I immensely enjoy attempting to learn..

Thanks again for your input! Sorry I am a bit slow to respond. It didn't twig unttil this morning, lol.

Ok so for you youngsters out there, it's an age thing

[solman]

I see this as the Saviour was not made of sin, but that he took on the sins of the world for our sake to show us that we are not condemned in sin. The baptism was needed to show His obediance to God's requirements, at the same time showing the people that through baptism of complete consciousness and understanding that salvation is available to anyone who submits to the Father.

The baptism was also a release of the revelation of his Sonship and power of the Holy Spirit in His life to verify to him and witnesses the full meaning to His own conscious awareness to prepare Him for the cruxifiction that was needed to fulfill the first part of the mission that He was sent to do. To give us an example or record of these accounts for us for the last two thousand years. Until His second coming is fulfilled as the scriptures, or word of God given to the prophets for our edification.

I'm sharing my perspective from the searching and living of the Bible literally in my life. I'm concluding that we today have the same soul characteristics as the prophets have recorded. Please pray and search for the answer within yourself through Spirit guidance.

Sent with love in Christ, Michael

Edited January 23, 2009 by solman

[sweet~lady]

Michael, Thankyou for your response but you didn't address my question about what you were saying in regards to "Christ having cleansed Himself at His baptism" to quote your earlier post. If you could clarify pls because I really only was looking for your explanation of that part. Thanks.

[solman]

Sweet lady,

Was the baptism a renewing, cleanse for Christ with the Holy Spirit?

[sweet~lady]

Sweet lady,

Was the baptism a renewing, cleanse for Christ with the Holy Spirit?

In a word.. no

How can a Sinless, Spotless Lamb of God need spiritual cleansing? Or even renewing for that matter.

It was a revelatory act as well as an enduement of power from on High that propelled Him fwd in the purpose to which he was called.

I say this most respectfully but I'm trying to understand where you are coming from. Thankyou.

[solman]

Sweet lady,

Another thought, at the baptism. Why did Christ, request that John baptize Him first, and not Christ baptize John first?

Did He feel that He was not fully worthy at that precise moment to give the baptism first? And gave John the comanding authority first?

[sweet~lady]

Sweet lady,

Another thought, at the baptism. Why did Christ, request that John baptize Him first, and not Christ baptize John first?

Did He feel that He was not fully worthy at that precise moment to give the baptism first? And gave John the comanding authority first?

Dear Solman,

I will have to have time to pull up Scripture references other than what is clearly stated in

Mt.3. 11-17

We are not called to philosophize Scripture but to rightly divide the Word.

2 Ti.2.15 and 2 Ti.3.16,17.

I take full responsibility for placing my own thoughts/ musings instead of using the Word as the foundation in this instance from the beginning actually. It's a good wakeup call. Thankyou!

My profuse apologies.

Jesus came to fulfill all righteousness and He Himself says that He does nothing except that He always directly obeyed The Father in everything. Jn.5.19,30.

I will trust that you will look up these references since I have to type them in by hand and I'm trying to save time and space. Thanks for your time and efforts. God Bless you!

[solman]

Hi, recenlty my husband and I have been discussing about Jesus being very God and Very man. My question is what about his earthly pilgrimage. My husband maintains that He gave up his "godness" and that He didn't resume this until after His baptism in the Jordan River when the Holy Spirit came upon Him. I have trouble understanding this because I personally don't believe that God fell off The Throne when Jesus was born as a helpless infant. Didn't He still have all power then too?

I hope I'm making sense. Please give me Scripture references (at least two corresponding ones ) when you reply. Thanks! Looking fwd to learning more..

You opened the post with this above. Why aren't my replies adequate. His earthly pilgrimage and gave up his "godness" and didn't resume until after His baptism, when the Holy Spirit came upon Him. I agree with your husband in this debate.

[sweet~lady]

Hi, recenlty my husband and I have been discussing about Jesus being very God and Very man. My question is what about his earthly pilgrimage. My husband maintains that He gave up his "godness" and that He didn't resume this until after His baptism in the Jordan River when the Holy Spirit came upon Him. I have trouble understanding this because I personally don't believe that God fell off The Throne when Jesus was born as a helpless infant. Didn't He still have all power then too?

I hope I'm making sense. Please give me Scripture references (at least two corresponding ones ) when you reply. Thanks! Looking fwd to learning more..

You opened the post with this above. Why aren't my replies adequate. His earthly pilgrimage and gave up his "godness" and didn't resume until after His baptism, when the Holy Spirit came upon Him. I agree with your husband in this debate.

Ok good enough, thankyou. I did ask for Scripture at least two or more but nobody noticed that it seems ..

I was just trying to figure out where you were coming from is all. But thanks.. the end. God Bless.