God and evil.

[germanJoy]

='germanJoy'

@ His girl

I accept your apology...I am also sorry for upsetting you with my postings. I should have reconsidered your sensitivity in the area of heavy arguments...I will try to be more gentle with you next time.

Is that a joke?

Is saying "I am also sorry" a joke?

If you read my apology to you with any seriousness at all, you would have seen I was upset with you devaluing my consideration of the whole Bible.

Please try to read the whole thread. First, you claimed that we should not judge by quoting a bible verse. I gave you two bible verses in 1 Cor 5 and 1 Pet 4 proving that we are to judge the "so-called brethren". You still vehemently rejected my bible-supported statements by insisting that it is wrong to judge the "so-called brethren". Second, you claimed that there is only one cherubim at the Garden of Eden according to Genesis. I disproved your statement that there is another cherubim at the Garden of Eden by giving you Ezekiel 28. Instead of acknowledging you were wrong, you were all the more upset by accusing my posts to be reeked with arrogance and my manner to be loathsome.

You have given me very good reason to believe that you were not accepting the bible verses I gave you.

You have just revealed more of yourself I'm afraid.

If you have anything personal against me, I ardently advise you to kindly send me a personal message before more unpleasant things are revealed in this thread.

Edited March 3, 2009 by germanJoy

[Guest HIS girl]

='germanJoy'

@ His girl

I accept your apology...I am also sorry for upsetting you with my postings. I should have reconsidered your sensitivity in the area of heavy arguments...I will try to be more gentle with you next time.

Is that a joke?

Is saying "I am also sorry" a joke?

If you read my apology to you with any seriousness at all, you would have seen I was upset with you devaluing my consideration of the whole Bible.

Please try to read the whole thread. First, you claimed that we should not judge by quoting a bible verse. I gave you two bible verses in 1 Cor 5 and 1 Pet 4 proving that we are to judge the "so-called brethren". You still vehemently rejected my bible-supported statements by insisting that it is wrong to judge the "so-called brethren". Second, you claimed that there is only one cherubim at the Garden of Eden according to Genesis. I disproved your statement that there is another cherubim at the Garden of Eden by giving you Ezekiel 28. Instead of acknowledging you were wrong, you were all the more upset by accusing my posts to be reeked with arrogance and my manner to be loathsome.

You have given me very good reason to believe that you were not accepting the bible verses I gave you.

You have just revealed more of yourself I'm afraid.

If you have anything personal against me, I ardently advise you to kindly send me a personal message before more unpleasant things are revealed in this thread.

Anyone who undermines my allegiance to the Bible, frankly I have no time for.

It is YOUR opinion that the rebellion of Lucifer did not happen before Creation but after - YOUR opinion.

I have my own opinion but you consider yourself correct. You can hold that opinion for as long as you desire...but don't try forcing your opinion on me.

I wouldn't care less if you were Cambridge, Oxford or Harvard educated - if I don't agree with YOUR opinion, so be it.

As for your acceptance of my apology, it wasn't a genuine heartfelt acceptance at all...there was zero sensitivity about it but only a sense of convincing yourself I am sensitive of "heavy arguments", and you will be "more gentle with me next time" - are you really sorry? Come on, say it for what it is - you added sarcasm with your reply to my apology - THAT is why it wasn't genuine and heartfelt - don't need to be an Einstein to see that.

[mjrhealth]

And so I rest my case. Here we see the bible bringing division and confusion,

(1Co 14:33) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

And division,

(Mar 3:24) And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

(Mar 3:25) And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

If the bible was from God, if the bible was truly Gods word and was the truth, we would all be walking in it and there would be no reason for arguement because we would have nothing to argue about, and if you limit God, who is infinite in wisdom to a finite book, then He cant be a very big god.

In His love

[Guest HIS girl]

And so I rest my case. Here we see the bible bringing division and confusion,

(1Co 14:33) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

And division,

(Mar 3:24) And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

(Mar 3:25) And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

If the bible was from God, if the bible was truly Gods word and was the truth, we would all be walking in it and there would be no reason for arguement because we would have nothing to argue about, and if you limit God, who is infinite in wisdom to a finite book, then He cant be a very big god.

In His love

Rethink.

It's not the Bible that's an issue here -

The issue is attitude and assumptions and sarcasm - all fleshly characteristics.

[Guest HIS girl]

This was part of my Bible study this morning -

Mounce's Dictionary Old and New Testament Words.

:- Evil- kakos (adjective): The presence of kakos raises the question of the origin, nature and purpose of evil in relation to God, man and providence. Theologians refer to this concept as the question of theodicy. In the NT good and evil are opposites, but they are not equal. Since "God cannot be tempted by evil" (James 1:13) the root of evil cannot lie with God.

(This in effect points to MY opinion that evil had it's origins in the rebellion of Lucifer (satan/pride) against God pre-Creation : Earth, sky, Universe).

AND

The use of kakos can be loosley divided into what is morally or ethically evil and what is destructive, damaging or harmful. People are morally or ethically evil in Mt 21:41, 24:48, Phil 3:2 and Rev 2:2. The same applies to qualities, emotions, deeds etc. In Jhn 18:23,30 , Rom 1:30, 3:8, 7:19,21, 13:4, 14:20, 16:19, 1 Cor 13:5, 2 Cor 13:7, 1 Thess 5:15, 1 Pet 3:9,12. Jesus goes as far as to say that the heart is the seat of evil. (Mk 7:21).

[germanJoy]

It is YOUR opinion that the rebellion of Lucifer did not happen before Creation but after - YOUR opinion.

Please be corrected of your wrong presumption regarding my opinion. I have never claimed that Lucifer rebelled before or after creation. I only presented the possibilities of what could have happened on the basis of Scriptures. The word I used in this thread was POSSIBILITY and not (my) OPINION as you have claimed. I had been careful enough not to give my own opinion on the subject Lucificer considering your negative reactions to my posts. If you wish to prove my statement wrong, please be kind enough to requote my previous postings.

I have my own opinion but you consider yourself correct. You can hold that opinion for as long as you desire...but don't try forcing your opinion on me.

How can I force anything upon anyone which I haven't even given yet?

I wouldn't care less if you were Cambridge, Oxford or Harvard educated - if I don't agree with YOUR opinion, so be it.

Thank you.

As for your acceptance of my apology, it wasn't a genuine heartfelt acceptance at all...there was zero sensitivity about it but only a sense of convincing yourself I am sensitive of "heavy arguments", and you will be "more gentle with me next time" - are you really sorry? Come on, say it for what it is - you added sarcasm with your reply to my apology - THAT is why it wasn't genuine and heartfelt - don't need to be an Einstein to see that.

I am not going to entertain any attempts of condemnation that can result to more resentments than forgiveness. In this regard, I will just simply ignore your misconceptions on my remarks. And please try to avoid reading my mind next time which can only lead to another round of abhorrent impressions.

Hisgirl, I had always been gentle to you and will remain gentle to you as long as God allows me. If you do not accept my apology, God does and did. I did accept your apology, and God did also. What is pending here is your act of forgiveness. Would you be willing to let it go?

Edited March 4, 2009 by germanJoy

[Guest HIS girl]

'germanJoy'

I wouldn't care less if you were Cambridge, Oxford or Harvard educated - if I don't agree with YOUR opinion, so be it.

Thank you.

I have the most silliest sense of humour and THAT emoticon just cracked me up!!!! It looks like Batfink's sidekick.....

Would you be willing to let it go?

Yes.

[Botz]

Now that wasn't so hard brethren was it....

[germanJoy]

I have the most silliest sense of humour and THAT emoticon just cracked me up!!!! It looks like Batfink's sidekick.....

It was just my own silly way of expressing my gratitude for the unanticipated compliment which I thought I haven't deserved.

Yes.

[Guest HIS girl]

I would like to continue this thread if you are up to it germanJoy?