Suicide by Christians

[givennewname]

I have a friend whose son just comitted suicide. He is a devoted Christian and is so depressed and believes that because his son commited suicide that he is lost. I do not necessary believe that in that i think suicide is like any other sins committed by christians and that there is no sin that cannot be covered by the Blood of Jesus. Man i don't even know how to comfort this Christian father.

[Guest HIS girl]

It's so hard - to comfort someone who has lost a child - regardless of HOW. Sometimes, just BEING there with the grieving is all you can do - sit there with them - words are not enough at times but PRESENCE is everything. The grieving just knowing you are there.

There are many Christians who have committed suicide and ONLY God knows the utter turmoil these people were in at the point of ending their life.

That's all I'll say on this.

[Guest Elizabeth55]

I have a friend whose son just comitted suicide. He is a devoted Christian and is so depressed and believes that because his son commited suicide that he is lost. I do not necessary believe that in that i think suicide is like any other sins committed by christians and that there is no sin that cannot be covered by the Blood of Jesus. Man i don't even know how to comfort this Christian father.

[givennewname]

i think the question that i am asking is the assurance of salvation. I have always believe that God is the author and the surety of salvation and it does not depend on what the person does. Isn't Christ sacrifice good for the past, present and future

[Guest HIS girl]

i think the question that i am asking is the assurance of salvation. I have always believe that God is the author and the surety of salvation and it does not depend on what the person does. Isn't Christ sacrifice good for the past, present and future

I am a believer of once Saved always Saved but there are others who do not hold this view.

For those who continue to be in willing rebellion AFTER Salvation - makes one wonder if they were truly saved in the first place.

By their fruits you shall know them.

God will give a person over to their rebellion if that person continues to reject Him over and over -

1 John 1v 6: If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. NKJ

[Guest man]

i think the question that i am asking is the assurance of salvation. I have always believe that God is the author and the surety of salvation and it does not depend on what the person does. Isn't Christ sacrifice good for the past, present and future

I am a believer of once Saved always Saved but there are others who do not hold this view.

Would you stake another person's life on that belief?

[riel]

I have a friend whose son just comitted suicide. He is a devoted Christian and is so depressed and believes that because his son commited suicide that he is lost. I do not necessary believe that in that i think suicide is like any other sins committed by christians and that there is no sin that cannot be covered by the Blood of Jesus. Man i don't even know how to comfort this Christian father.

Pray about what to say to the Father. He could have very well asked forgiveness for commiting suicide right before he died. We should never presume that anyone is lost after they die because salvation can't always be observed by someone else.

[givennewname]

i think the question that i am asking is the assurance of salvation. I have always believe that God is the author and the surety of salvation and it does not depend on what the person does. Isn't Christ sacrifice good for the past, present and future

I am a believer of once Saved always Saved but there are others who do not hold this view.

For those who continue to be in willing rebellion AFTER Salvation - makes one wonder if they were truly saved in the first place.

By their fruits you shall know them.

God will give a person over to their rebellion if that person continues to reject Him over and over -

1 John 1v 6: If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. NKJ

if we look at the men that God chooses, be it Abraham, David ect, they were doing bad things before God considered them righteous, they were doing bad things after God considered them righteous. Look at Abraham. God promises Abraham the Pomised land, and a son. Abraham believes.. God considered him righteous... then Abraham tries to help God by sleeping with Hagar (not even he is in unbelief but when he is justified)...

We do not stop being silly after we get saved... we still continue to be silly way after we get saved... and that may include killing yourself.

[Guest HIS girl]

i think the question that i am asking is the assurance of salvation. I have always believe that God is the author and the surety of salvation and it does not depend on what the person does. Isn't Christ sacrifice good for the past, present and future

I am a believer of once Saved always Saved but there are others who do not hold this view.

Would you stake another person's life on that belief?

I am not on this thread for a debate -

man, only God knows the pure motive of someones heart. For all intents and purposes, someone may look to me as if they are Saved, you know - say the right things, act the right way - but behind closed doors they are doing the most vile things...in their minds the worst actrocities..so only God knows for sure where a mans allegiance lies.

What SHOULD be a good indicator of a Believer is CONSISTENT fruit - whether it is in public or in private.

I am confident in MY Salvation and I trust the Lord that He lives in me and will never leave me.

[Guest HIS girl]

i think the question that i am asking is the assurance of salvation. I have always believe that God is the author and the surety of salvation and it does not depend on what the person does. Isn't Christ sacrifice good for the past, present and future

I am a believer of once Saved always Saved but there are others who do not hold this view.

For those who continue to be in willing rebellion AFTER Salvation - makes one wonder if they were truly saved in the first place.

By their fruits you shall know them.

God will give a person over to their rebellion if that person continues to reject Him over and over -

1 John 1v 6: If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. NKJ

if we look at the men that God chooses, be it Abraham, David ect, they were doing bad things before God considered them righteous, they were doing bad things after God considered them righteous. Look at Abraham. God promises Abraham the Pomised land, and a son. Abraham believes.. God considered him righteous... then Abraham tries to help God by sleeping with Hagar (not even he is in unbelief but when he is justified)...

We do not stop being silly after we get saved... we still continue to be silly way after we get saved... and that may include killing yourself.

Abraham heeded Sarah's plea for him to father a child to Hagar.

Of course Believers still mess up after being saved - it's all about the HEART of a man/woman......for out of the heart flow the issues of life.