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  1. My reasoning why tongues is mostly discussed is because it can be the most abused gift. If we look at the gifts, tongues is the only gift that can not be proven right or wrong. Let's look at what the gifts are from 1 Cor 12. word of wisdom word of knowledge faith healings miracles prophecy discerning of spirits different kinds of tongues interpretation of tongues. Out of all these gifts, the one that could do the most damage is tongues and the interpretation of tongues. Since nobody can out-rightly point to someone who is using tongues and accuse them of abusing the gift, it is abused more then any other. When someone gives an interpretation, who can say it is wrong until it does not come to pass, a lot like prophecy. Remember, it is not the body who falsifies the gifts, but Satan, trying his best to cause discord within the body. We all have the flesh to deal with and this is where he attacks. How our pride and self-righteousness can play a big part if we are not careful. I believe in all the gifts, though I have not seen them all. I also believe that any gift can be falsified. We need to accept His word as truth while understanding that Satan is out to mock God and cause division where unity should be. The gifts are real and active, but doubt rises when one personally sees someone falsifies the gifts. Those who disagree are looking at the one who is falsifying the gift and NOT at He who gives them. All throughout scripture we can find false prophets, false teachers and false preachers. We can see many times where people have pretended to be of God and were found to be false. Why should we be so shocked to see the same today when these days are far more wicked then the days in the past? If history records false miracles, we will find them today also. The same goes with speaking in tongues and their interpretations. Yes, the two gifts surrounding tongues is the least of the gifts, but they are in the forefront. If Satan can get people to believe they no longer exist, he has won half the battle. Be Blessed and learn to "trust in the Lord with all your heart and not lean onto your own understanding".
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  2. Blessings jade, i do not listen/read watch anything that is not Christian usually with the occasional except ( if i am at another's house, hearing a hurricane earthquake or news item from others etc). This has been at least the past 6 years or so. i used to have tv with cable for my children when they came to visit but stopped that as well. ( we talk during their visits anyway lol) why i do it is because my spirit is bothered when i do. love your sister in Christ, Rebekah David
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  3. I was thinking the same thing, Josh, but I wasn't formulating how to word this. Glad you got it! Along those lines, it's one thing for a person who has sought the Lord for the gift of prophecy and/or has and uses the gift of prophecy to talk about tongues being the lesser gift and to use the Scripture stating such and how it is better to seek the gift of prophecy. It is quite another when someone who does not and has not asked for/has and uses the gift of prophecy to use this passage in Scripture to speak against the use of tongues. That to me does not make sense.
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  4. Yeshua only broke the growing rabbinical laws, the fences they put around God's law is what they felt He broke. The commandments were never designed to 'save' anyone, they were there not only to point to the fact that man needed a savior but to show how God wants us to live our lives, shows us how to act and interact with one another, etc., that is why Yeshua said that all the commandments can be summed up in the two, love God first and foremost and then love your neighbors as your self. With the guideance, leading of the Holy Spirit we can walk in His commandments, not perfectly to be sure but since He took the condemnation of the law the death penalty away we no longer live under the threat of death if we break His laws.
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  5. For me, it is not just the message, but how it makes me "feel", or rather how it makes my spirit feel. There are even Christian songs out there that don't feel good in my spirit, either. For instance, there are artists who sing and record worship songs that don't have the "feel" of worship with it, and I don't like listening to their version of the song. You see, I have a sensitivity to worship (musically), and I have discovered that not everyone has this. But I don't know how to explain to those who don't what is like and how it affects me. I utilize it when I am worship dancing, my body flows with the worship of the song in expressive ways. I'm not sure how to put into words how I can tell this sensitivity is with my spirit rather than my soul, other than it is something that seems to be sensed more in my gut area than in my brain-chemical area. There are some secular songs I enjoy, though - like "The Land Down Under" because it's a fun song and I have a liking for Australia or some of Weird Al Yankovic's song parodies. I couldn't take a steady diet of such, but I enjoy listening to them when they are being played. But for the most part, it is more about what the music does to my spirit. I've struggled with this for a long time. Breaking away from TV and movies is hard though. Of course, now I'm in a situation where I can't watch these. But I really don't mind, because more and more, even with shows I enjoy, there is just too much filth coming out of them that it's disgusting me. Most of my life I've just spit out the junk for the pleasure of what else the show had to offer (like spitting out seeds from a watermelon). But more and more the filth has just gotten worse. I've been asking myself if the pleasure is worth the junk. And unlike the watermelon seeds, the memories don't leave my memory. So I'm stuck with the junk I've watched. The whole "in the world, not of the world" principle is a crazy line to follow, and it seems we all have different convictions on where to draw the line - and sometimes we focus more on certain aspects than others. I don't know why music gets the bad wrap above TV. But people who are called to minister more to the unsaved an young Christians might be better off having their feet more immersed in the culture of society than those called to worship ministries and the like. Hope my rambling makes some sense.
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  6. hi Randolf, im pleased to get you some dictionary time. Its impossible to do away with moral law as it exists because we do. We are moral beings and every choice we make is a moral choice, there is no getting away from it. God does not arbitrarily make up the moral laws, they are because He made us moral beings in His image. While its a nice sentiment to say every day is unto the Lord, The Lord of all glory wills that one day a week be set aside from our normal employments and activities so that we can rest, recieve teaching and join in fellowship and corporate worship. Where "two or three are gathered in my name" is an powerful moral influence among society if the church is for holy living in word and in deed. How many home groups have enough people for some to be Apostles, some Prophets, some Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers? There are valid moral reasons why persons may not meet on a regular or any day, but its not true that we are free to avoid keeping a sabbath for selfish reasons. Love constrains us to meet not just for our needs, but the needs of our neighbour and the commandment to love God with all of our heart, mind and soul, and if we do not love our neighbour who we can see we do not love God, even though we worship 10 hrs a day in our bedroom. Its funny that Jesus said His commandments must be followed, yet some think there are none or that love has no commandments. Who would say that we no longer need to keep the other nine commandments? yet some think the 6th has been removed, this is antimonian thinking. The letter of the law (sabbath is a saturday for the Jews) can be changed but never the spirit of the law (man needs a sabbath for moral reasons) IMO.
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  7. For all who believe God has cast away the Sabbath, how do you explain this verse? Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance <choq>, broken the everlasting covenant. <choq> - an appointment (of time, space, quantity, labor or usage):--appointed, bound, commandment, convenient, custom, decree(-d), due, law, measure, X necessary, ordinance(- nary), portion, set time, statute, task. There is only one "ordinance" given by the finger of God written in stone. In what other way was it changed?
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