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Sorry for the lateness! @Marilyn C

Are you suggesting that Scripture is not complete? If so, I would contend with that! The canon of Scripture was closed in 90's AD Revelation 22:17 (KJV) [17] And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. [18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: [19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. And God has equipped us fully with it 2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV) [15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. The communication from God is complete and to suggest otherwise seems contrary to the intended communication of God to us...

Worthy does not support apocrypha as anything Bible! Worthy's statement of faith: "We believe that the 66 books of the Canon, from Genesis to Revelation are the exhaustive, inerrant and inspired word of God."

1 John 1:9 (KJV) [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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A most interesting passage along these lines John 20:26 (KJV) [26] And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. [27] Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. [28] And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. [29] Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. [30] And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: [31] But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

We Just Don’t Noah | Answers in Genesis Absolutely assumed... but it stands to reason that his work certainly was seen and that he preached righteousness and no one at that time held any thoughts but evil continually... so it's not a far reach to assume they did ridicule him... after all there was no such thing as rain at that time... Hebrews 11:7 (KJV) [7] By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Had it ever rained before the Flood in Noah’s day? | GotQuestions.org

My Mama! The museum is in my heart....

I met one once ... she was in a museum

coming from a woman no less

List specifics and I'll show you where they are...

It's as simple as works cannot save you so how could works condemn you Romans 8:33 (KJV) [33] Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. [34] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. [35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? [36] As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. [37] Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. [38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Some say well I can do it myself but then God says they were never of Him to start with... 1 John 2:19 (KJV) [19] They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

I prefer what God says over humanistic reason...

Actually, it is our beginning of which God does not have... yet what gave us being is of Him (Spirit) that has no beginning... When Adam became a soul by God's infusion of breath we became that which never has became in a created nursery of coddling by God of sorts. God says no one can see His Face and live and since God is Spirit there exist no form but the infinite process of being without end and coming into that reality would not be survivable to us in our beginning nursery of begin... Adam in his opening consciousness would have nothing but question in absolute everything in his sensual learning grid of began. The communicated answers would only come from one source 'God's Word' and whether God gave form to that Word or not would not have been necessarily necessary due to the fact everything was new and to be learned (he would not know difference of voice without form or voice with form). In this innocence of begin God's Word was the only answer to the questions that would be forthcoming in Adams growth of understanding from absolute begin... This is the bridge of faith and it connects that which 'IS' Spiritual to that which began and was the means by which God fed both material exist and spiritual exist within the being of Adam. If you could remove all lie and have only truth you would have pure faith generated by God's Word in the beginning with Adam... God simply says it like this: John 1:1 (KJV) [Jn 1:1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Romans 10:17 (KJV) [17] So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. the key is to return to this reality s/Spiritually but without body or world unredeemed by God... thus Hebrews 11:3 (KJV) [3] Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. and the only way we can have this realty as in the beginning without doubt is to come to Jesus for Spiritual regeneration wherein lies the capacity to once again exist also in s/Spirit... The necessity is simple said like this Hebrews 11:6 (KJV) [6] But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. As all of the entirety of this creation will be removed even the memory of... for what is the value of lie really? Satan became nothing when he emptied himself of God and filled that void with lie... this is why the natural man has no hope of God for he holds no capacity to make God's Word more substantial than this life of begin and the lies that fill it...

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when one lets Scripture interpret Scripture this answer is easy... from the eternal, which only God has that perspective, a day (24 hour period) is the same to The Lord, in his infinite state, as (one thousand years)... 2 Peter 3:8 (KJV) [8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. You should be more careful how you handle Scripture...

okay perhaps you can't answer the question Straight out...So I will give my understanding: Yes, God is sovereignly in control and in that control He granted angels first then mankind the freedom to have a will completely 'sovereign of self' as He- yet not as He is sovereign in all matter without end... This free will must exist for Lucifer to do as he did... or God is responsible for sin! Free will is God's sovereign control of eternity (or) judgment would not be possible - for you would have God judging His own actions upon those he chose those actions for... that is suicide for the mind right there... the real question is If God is all good 'and we believe' that Scripture says that is so 1 John 1:5 (KJV) [5] This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. John 14:6 (KJV) [6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. then this comprised the entirety of creation every and all aspects... so the real question is how did sin get here which existed not in an all-sovereign God creating and ruling eternity? In our makeup God gave the ability to enjoy the things God has given us and in that joy give it back to Him as glorying in and thanksgiving for those gifts... by giving back rightfully to the One Who gave is the righteousness of God sharing His nature with our own in Holiness... When we see Lucifer, He was given great position and beauty and abilities God called this his merchandise. Ezekiel 28:16a (KJV) [16a] By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, As we read they filled Lucifer with violence... This violence is further define: Ezekiel 28:17 (KJV) [17] Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. These giftings of merchandise He became enamored with instead of the One Who gave him such... now his situation was one of position leading worship in an exalted position at the throne of God and receiving that exaltation all due to God and wished to keep it for himself... this the violence within him grew to the point where leaving the truth of God's right to all the glory, the truth, to a lie he formed within himself Isaiah 14:13 (KJV) [13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: [14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Once this lie was formed in his own being by acting upon the violence he formed the first lie 'I will be like the most High' As nothing of this had any place with God so sin has no place with God... Now turning to the sovereignty of God in this we see God making it non-place so by removing all of it by burning up the first heaven and earth and separating that which has no place with Him forever and bringing in a new heaven and new earth with us who knows it is all God's and He deserves all glory, power and honor forever without end... this the salvation of our souls as God's glory 'IS' our glory... God declares this: Ezekiel 28:15 (KJV) [15] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. by this we know God's responsibility was perfection... however, satan responsibility is lie- he the father of and formed in his own heart to keep that which was not his to keep... this fulfilling Scripture's statement of him John 8:44 (KJV) [44] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Satan took the incredible giftings The Lord gave him to convince them, the other angels, He was god and they, 1/3 of the angles of God, with him in his lie -truly a violence indeed! As this I have one more verse Ephesians 4:27 (KJV) [27] Neither give place to the devil. why? Because it has no place with God!

you made the comment the God was in control of everything and I ask does that include the sin that is here. So far you haven't answered that... you gave me the orgin of sin but not the answer I asked if God is in control of everything as you stated so sin is here by God's control?

All sin God tells us brings confusion and it is not from Him 1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV) [33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

I gave you the context of what that meant and it had nothing to do with God ruling in hell! And the forum is for debating points of contention ... pleasantly of course but none the less debate.

so, he does not control everything?

So, do you believe God brought about sin?

It is the confusion of thinking we can do sin and good will come from it...

just read the post as that is what I said within it... do you have anything to add? God is not in hell ruling it nor is he giving it any thought! Philippians 4:8 (KJV) [8] Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. I guarantee you there is nothing in the lake of fire worthy of God's thoughts...

I am a little confused you are quoting back to me my reply to you My post was putting that statement in context... did you agree or disagree...