simplejeff

There's no debate going on, or haven't you noticed ? The believers are standing strong in God's Word against intruders/ false gospel, as Jesus Says, there is nothing to debate.

< shrugs > Pick one at random.......

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Ask Jesus.

For a long time I watched as you corrupted posts about God's Word, perverting the Gospel as many others have noted, even have noted years ago (and you rejected the truth, rejected those who Jesus sent then, as you do now). Simply by grace, from the Father in heaven we who abide in His Word have shown you what Yahweh Says in His Word as Jesus Reveals it to ALL HIS CHILDREN. Each time you choose to reject it. We cannot , and Jesus will not, force you to believe the truth nor to renounce wickedness that you got entangled in. Yahweh Himself is Merciful, yet will not coerce anyone to believe - free will is a great gift, and though many people (most people on earth) die instead of choosing to follow Jesus, Yahweh will not take their free will to choose who to follow away from them

Yes, Scripture is clear, of course. Oh, but not nearly to most people..... of course.

No, sorry.

Sorrrrry you listen to the pagan teachings of babylon, and can't take serously the teachings of Godly men and God's Word ....

To YAHWEH , as HE SAYS CLEARLY. everyone in the beast/ babylon/ catholic system is enemy of JESUS. Always. Few ever escape (repent to get saved) according to YAHWEH.

His Choice. Actually, anyone from Sodom that repented and lived righteously could have been saved with Lot (probably)., like anyone who would have listened to NOAH and gotten ON THE ARK before the door closed would have been saved from the flood with NOAH and his family. Sinners today ? They will suffer A GREATER JUDGMENT, SINCE A GREATER THAN MOSES has come (JESUS). JESUS came and died for the sins of mankind, to save His people from their sins. THOSE SINNERS WHO REJECT THIS GREATEST OF ALL PRICES PAID, die without mercy. A terrible, horrible judgment.

Amein! And one of the best exercises for low cost and little time per week is the little trampoline(like 4' wide and 8" tall) - jumping on it for 10 minutes , 3 times a week. (more is okay , but not usually needed). Doctors have recognized that this is better exercise for the heart and muscle coordination than swimming , horse-back riding, and walking, which says a lot for it as is also borne out in experience..... JUST HOLD ON TO SOMETHING if the balance while jumping on it is not very steady - and don't try jumping high, just a little effort continued thru the week produces great results !

Yes, and yes, it does even before starting it - just thinking about it comes via the influence of the enemy of Christ. This is because of the demonic and satanic origins of it, and the associations today that remain with it, as it is often if not always "the appearance of evil" and also often "evil" because of depending /trusting something apart from God that is often if not always opposed to TRUTH/GOD/JESUS. Anyway, it is like white-washed tombs (hidden dangers) , or quicksand - can you recognize quicksand apart from the sound soil around it ? (no) Likewise the 'spirit' behind such things is like (only worse than) a chameleon and cannot be seen by the eyes nor heard by the ears, except if and when Yahweh reveals this. Trust in Yahweh entirely to be always safe and kept guarded by Him as His Word Says Daily.

First of all, of most importance, Jesus came to heal and to save the lost. Seek Him directly , in person , to be healed. (do not trust the flesh or the carnal world - no matter where He leads you , follow Jesus , and trust Him. With and without others advice - but ALWAYS depend on the FATHER IN HEAVEN, through all things, every day. Second, yes. The answer to your question, Yahweh already showed you in His Word. Yes. Only Jesus and the FATHER YAHWEH in HEAVEN is able to and can set anyone free and protect and keep anyone free from the influence of the enemy ....

I believe Yahweh is speaking of truth, of true wisdom (from Him), and experiential true knowledge (from Him). When anyone Old Testament times or New Testament times learns the truth, it is very often devastating and embarrassing, piercing even the heart and soul ..... so great are the wickednesses of man everywhere, all around us growing up, and all of our lives. (extremely few if any exceptions) But even with exceptions, for most people when they start to learn the truth from Yahweh, in His Plan, it is [extremely] painful and sorrowful, for all the sin that comes to LIGHT (is exposed in HIS LIGHT) as HE WORKS SALVATION in anyone. Oh, true, SALVATION IS HEALING , and nurturing peaceful balm , finding out the omni-caring of Yahweh and the goodness of the SHEPHERD JESUS, their perfect care forever past and forward in the future.... But seeing the mass perniciousness of family, friends and society everywhere, is still astonishing, at first also embarrassing (finding out that what and often who we once trusted completely is deadly) , and this is also one reason people STOP following or seeking JESUS - they don't enough in HIS PLAN to know it is worth it (to give up everything and as needed to suffer everything even the loss of all things for the GOSPEL'S SAKE , FOR JESUS, to be His disciple and to receive LIFE from Him and in Him ) ...... People hurting and killing people is one of the most common (and PROFITABLE) activities on earth in every country.

As Jesus says, if you have true faith trusting and relying on the Father in heaven, and you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you can heal someone. If someone has great faith, they can heal someone every time Yahweh says to. Just like the disciples with faith the size (apparently) of a grain of mustard seed did. Of course, they do not claim any thing to be their own.

Yes, there are many obstacles online which prevent true fellowship that's needed in the body of Christ on earth. So far as actually acknowledged, only one person in ten years was "saved" from anything via the forum: although many more might have been quietly, no one else has acknowledged it that I know of (after posting frequently over several years on a few forums looking for anyone who was ever saved because of the forum, or even because of the internet) ... It seems obvious reading thread titles and posts that most people are not and never were saved, and there is a lot of support not to be, and it seems many visitors who are saved before reading the forum leave soon after reading because of the sorrows and strife and unrighteousness of most of the threads and posts. NOTE: "seems" i.e. from their comments when they happen to make comments; there are many more who just watch for a week or three weeks without ever posting anything and then they leave and are not seen again. (noted from many 'birthdays' checking their status and other A much bigger question then follows: is it possible to learn enough without endangering the physical and online safety of a visitor or a member , especially since the legal authorities have televised the results of their findings: Namely never share personalliy identifiable identity information online in anonymous places, chats, forums, or social network stuff/sites: (there are of course some exceptions, though few) .... and that every chat room and every forum and every bulletin board they visit has perpetrators , even or especially the religious sites (since perpetrators know people expect members to be 'Christian' or 'safe' or whatever ) ........ ----------- ^^^^^ ^^^^ Beware of Much "appearance of evil" or "evil" (OP's question) ? ............ So, 'finally', yes it takes time, sometimes 6 months, sometimes years, to meet and find anyone trustworthy and who is actually who they say they are. The "appearances" ONLINE everywhere are often traps, often deceiving , often not what they seem to be..... (newcomers to the internet, young folk and those weak in faith and blameless 'seekers' (in their seeking) ought all to be fore-warned and reminded now and then of the dangerous world we all live in. Most sad, this includes the largest of all actors on the stage of life, with huge organizations behind them, well known and THOUGHT to be 'good' or 'upright' or 'safe' or even 'doing right' or 'encouraging' groups, that are betrayers and destroyers of souls and of faith...... THE GOOD NEWS ? YAHWEH IS FAITHFUL AND TRUE, and HIS WORD LASTS FOREVER ! TRUST and RELY ON HIM ! Little children, keep yourselves from idols, go and sin no more, and call on the FATHER IN HEAVEN for EVERY NEED TODAY.

maybe, maybe not. (as proposed here just now)

"LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS" and the darkness cannot overcome it.

It seems "limited" with all of its associated weaknesses and meanings does not do righteous justice to Yahweh's unlimited grace, "without measure", joy "without measure", peace "without measure", and righteousness "without measure" all poured out immeasurably from His Throne (Plan, Judgment, Mercy, Choice, ) through and in and with the incomprehensible totally eternal before all time and through all time and after all time is gone LIFE, RESURRECTION LIFE IN JESUS !

Mainly because the SPIRIT of YAHWEH is not the source of that. It came from a false source. This is a gross assumption , or myth, or worse, taken from pagan sources, always contrary to Yahweh and all Scripture. (in the context/ thread/ idea(s) presented here.

And as others have shown from many Scriptures, Yahweh is the Guard, Yahweh is the Source, Yahweh Provided outside of and instead of and Sovereignly Himself all the Scriptures - HIS WORD BREATHED BY HIM to His Called and Chosen Brethren unknown to the enemy (and/or never approved by the enemy of Christ). The Authority, the Accomplishment, the Fullness, all is from and of Yahweh, not those men who are not reliable witnesses, not by the desire of the flesh, nor of blood, nor of mankind, but BY THE WILL OF THE FATHER in HEAVEN as HE SAYS. Yes, there is always a lot of other 'trust' placed in men/flesh/ man's system by those who don't know, (most all people), Rather Yahweh Divinely Guarded and Kept His Word, (most importanly and least understood perhaps: especially as He put TORAH in the hearts of all those He Called and He Chose, which no man can get to, purchase, or change) .....

He didn't ..... the gentiles do not fare well , today, or in the future, until after Jesus Returns....

Best still to stick simply with Scripture, as the ecf were often wrong, and/or used to promote what is wrong, even right up until today, and until Jesus Returns.

Check Scripture for both: who was permitted to be in fellowship, and a separate list: who Jesus tended to be around, (AND what HE DID, as obviously HE DID NOT hang around tax collectors nor prostitutes to learn their trade, NOR to encourage their sinful life). ONLY Scripture, and you will be shocked or very surprised, almost everyone is anyway...... ENJOY SCRIPTURE and come out of babylon, as the FATHER SAYS to all who love HIM , who are called according to HIS PLAN.

No, you made a statement that demon possessed people cannot cast out demons. That is misleading because people every day see with their own eyes demon possessed preachers cast out demons. At least that is what they see. They do not think someone is pretending to cast out demons - they really see and believe that the preacher is casting out demons. LIkewise the fake healings - if the people do not know better, they think the preacher is really and truly healing people. You yourself have been tricked in similar ways in the past, before you knew better. Most everyone has been tricked this way, by false preachers with a false gospel, many totally convinced themselves that demons are being cast out and that people are being healed. Also, it has happened , if you care to look further, that witchdoctors (totally practicing witchdoctors), in Africa and in China have cast out demons and have healed people and have raised people from the dead after they had been in the morgue for a week ! Everything done by hasatan and by the demons and by the false preachers is deceptive. And it happens right before multitudes all over the world , and IN THE UNITED STATES , every day.