simplejeff

What if I said something like this : "My heresy is very hard earned. Likely it will get worse. I am very far past main stream bible study thought. " ? Is that Biblical or ..... abominable ? (for new readers (who don't know yet) ; Yahweh's Word Says Clearly and Always: homosexuality is an abomination, as is accepting it, teaching it is okay, or in 'coddling' it in anyone who calls themself a believer. Yahweh says if they do not repent, out they go.(from any fellowship in Christ Jesus) )

I don't think you expect me to correct your reading comprehension, but as Shiloh has shown , sorry, like I said before. I don't even think it is possible to read any Scripture, especially JOB, and think that man is in control (except to store up more and more wickedness until the last day (for mankind/ society/ scientists/ doctors/ politicians/ bankers churches/ etc etc etc as written throughout Scripture). However, as much as you probably do not want to say , what school or church thinks and teaches what you post ? (if any) It often simplifies getting to the actual root of an error to say where it comes from, even if people follow it (like catholicism, jws, mormons, etc etc etc ) .... Otherwise it may just take months (literally on this forum) to get to the bottom/source ......

Look in the worthychristianlibrary.com for things Scriptural - it is tried, tested, proven and truth in and from Scripture. When you find ekklesia and men of Yahweh devoted to Yahweh by faith in Jesus and abiding in Him and His Word abiding in them, Yahweh Willing, they agree. Also , there's no arguing there. The forum is wide open to the whole world practically, thus to false teachings, and perhaps more than truth, but the library is "secure" .... (still, always test everything) ....

It has been happening for a long, long time already, and today, and will culminate soon, Yahweh Willing, openly, even though behind the scenes it is already fully planned (as has always been as Yahweh's Word Says) ....

The true ekklesia throughout the world do not have the power to silence the false gospel on this forum. So the true ekklesia testifies to the TRUTH, from Yahweh and His Word, as often as Yahweh says and we are able to.

Even little boys have been kicked out of the rcc for taking a stand for the truth ! (for many centuries) A little child can lead believers, but not inside the abomination..... Young or old gets kicked out for standing for TRUTH.

IT sure seems that way some days - post the Scripture against the heretic (many many threads the last ten years) , and see who gets offended and who gets banned.

1 Thessalonians V:16-22 "................ ALWAYS BE REJOICING ...................... BE PRAYING UNCEASINGLY ........ In everything be giving thanks, for this IS THE WILL OF GOD in CHRIST JESUS for you. STOP stifling and suppressing the SPIRIT. STOP counting as nothing DIVINE REVELATIONS given IN the local ASSEMBLY by the one who receives them, but BE PUTTING ALL THINGS TO THE TEST [test EVERYTHING] for the PURPOSE of approving them AND FINDING they meet the REQUIREMENTS put your approval on them.....[positive expections, subject to and in Jesus by His Word] BE CONSTANTLY HOLDING FAST [hold tight, never let go] that which is GOOD. BE HOLDING YOURSELVES BACK [WILLINGLY DO THIS] FROM EVERY FORM of perniciousness. "

No, they don't. It's usually cults and cultists who think that they alone hold the truth and everyone else in the world is in error. Maybe , maybe a lot, maybe not - it appears the last few years , that A LOT of members in "normal" brick and mortar OR 'organized' recognized "churches" refuse to believe the truth from Scripture IF it differs from what their church tells them - they don't want to stand up for the truth apart from "their" group, for whatever reason. This seems to happen A LOT online, AND in person. (many mainline denominations , and charismatic, and non-denominational groups) And no, they won't change, and not only won't change, they won't often/usually REVEAL what their group tells them or what group they listen to even (it can take months to find out someone follows piper, or graham, or other teachers in error; or catholic, or jw, or mormon roups in error) ....

That's not what Scripture says, sorry. And by testing as Scripture says to test, by Scripture and always in prayer, abiding in Jesus, sorry again, it's not truth.

oh, and how did /does JESUS know ? (see in the GOSPELS) it is no secret.

Straightforward (blunt) , good ! How did the Apostles and disciples know ? (see in ACTS) It is no secret.

PERFECTLY ! He is KING OF THE JEWS ! But why did you ask ? With a good or with a bad reason ?

Maybe not in Scripture: (did not research this yet, except this one simple search for "comet") I think though, that Yahweh knows the difference between star and comet, right ? And His Word is His Word Breathed through men He called and chose and appointed as HE HIMSELF GUARDS HIS WORD. Numbers 24:17 - Bible Gateway https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Numbers 24%3A17 A king, like a bright star, will arise in that nation. Like a comet he will come from Israel. He will strike the leaders of Moab And beat down all the people of Seth.

Silly! Of course not! Those tiny things ! They are NOTHING compared to when Christ Returns ! shucks, they're not even a gnat next to anything of Christ !

This is very commonly thought, and likely very commonly true (that they think that)..... So when you find an assembly of believers , ekklesia born again and set apart by the Father for Himself, what do they say ? (have you ever found one ? )

It happens every day on hundreds of forums/ threads etc etc etc newspapers, television, youtube, ..... Try to find a pastor preaching against perversion (sexual and governmental), or against the anti-christ on forums and in government and in churches. (David Wilkerson did, and a few others did/ maybe some do, but most are silenced in the media, and on the internet/ forums etc) Yes. The catholics on catholic forums will often ban a true Christian who visits their forums or parishes, just like they banned Martin Luther and Charles Chiniquy and Keith Green and , of course, Jesus. (oh, and Yahweh)...

What if they come to your house, right into your living room or kitchen, and try to keep teaching a false gospel to your children, your mom, your dad, your cousins, and your neighbors ?

. hmmmm........ doesn't..... footnotes: Genesis 37:9 He had another dream which he told his brothers: “Here, I had another dream, and there were the sun, the moon and eleven stars prostrating themselves before me.” PHILLIPS “Immediately after the misery of those days ‘the sun will be darkened, the moon will fail to give her light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of heaven will be shaken’. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will wring their hands as they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky in power and great splendour. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet-call and they will gather his chosen from the four winds—from one end of the heavens to the other.

haha, not just any sermon - This is from Yahweh OT and NT and through JESUS HIMSELF !!!!

Later today maybe, I'll post the Scripture where it says to both SAY and DO as the FATHER SAYS and DOES, ALL THE TIME. For example, HOW did Jesus say that simon bar jonah (Peter) KNEW that Jesus Christ IS Christ, the Messiah, the Son of Yahweh ? (hint: NOT by education. NOT by learning from his dad, mom, brother , sister, or EVEN from JESUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) (that really is a surprise to the unborns) Second hint: What did Yahweh Proclaim THRU Yochanan the immerser is necessary for any man to understand anything (to receive anything) ?

When from Yahweh someone understands 1 Thes 5:22, when Yahweh grants the understanding - when He removes the veil (as ONLY HE can do), it doesn't matter which translation someone reads here given, and the KJV is no more wrong than any other translation IN ENGLISH. It is NOT VITAL in english, nor is it reliable in english, if someone trusts man's ways, the flesh, and definitions in english. What is VITAL ? Search this out: (it is difficult, EVEN with all the internet resources) "Echad" It is difficult to find any english translation the correct meaning,or at least few ever find it. Less than one in a thousand people ever hear or learn or understand it. (The meaning, which IS VITAL) So most people both practice what is wrong, and appear to practice what is wrong, EVERY DAY. That's what is written in God's Word. (While a few, who find the narrow road to life, do as it is written, as Jesus says, following Him even to death with no fear of death and no doubt, no [lasting] depression even at all (rather continual fullness of RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE AND JOY as WRITTEN) )

Yes, as the enemy "wears out the saints" as the enemy is permitted to post ad infinitum (without end, it seems at least). ------- In the assemblies of born again saints (ekklesia), they do not permit the enemy to speak, and especially NOT to continue speaking false gospels, or anything contrary to the Father's Will/ Word/ Purpose and Plan in Jesus. Order (in a few places on earth and on the internet) is maintained so that the enemy cannot continually be sowing his seed (heresy, etc) to the weak and young believers, and the seekers who want to find Yahweh's Kingdom here and now. On the internet and in the world, this Scriptural decency and order is not usually done (or only in a few places) ...

Well, I sort of was wondering what Bible you read, maybe what translation, What do you want to call liars today ? Those who preach and teach and live under a FALSE GOSPEL, what would you call them today ? Why call them any different than Jesus and His followers did ?

YES, you can find the remnant, the true believers immersed in Jesus' Name, LIVING AS HE SAYS IN HIS WORD, Yahweh Willing According to His Word. (not relying on the internet though). "There is none good but Elohim Echad (God)" as Jesus says in BIBLE, and yes, you can find the evidence, the truth, from Scripture, and from men called and chosen by GOD, in the worthychristianlibrary.com without all the IF you want to. (You don't have to look nor find the true believers if you don't want to). As Yahweh's Word Says, "seek His Kingdom, and keep seeking His Kingdom" and you will find it. This is still as true today as it was in the Garden of Eden, and possibly in people's experience it will remain true through the years of persecution and tribulation for those who love Him, who are called according to His Purpose. (Realize that for some, who give up seeking, it never happens, just as His Word Declares) .....