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Still "tradition" - as has been argued for centuries. Remember, or learn, that "tradition" has mislead most of the people of the world. Relax, and stay with what YHWH'S WORD actually says - and leave the things not liked or unknown, to rest - that's better than compounding an error due to or because of "feelings"... or other criteria YHWH doesn't use.

YHWH and Y'SHUA planned all the days of our lives before even creating the world, according to HIS WORD. And when CHRIST died ? Manifest when crucified as written in SCRIPTURE, yet also : (as PERFECTLY PLANNED, PURPOSED, and ACCOMPLISHED by YHWH) (as soon as HE determined , it was accomplished) Revelation 13:8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all ... biblehub.com/revelation/13-8.htm - Cached - Similar And all the inhabitants of The Earth will worship it, those who are not written in The Book of Life of The Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. 1 Peter 1:20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but ... biblehub.com/1_peter/1-20.htm - Cached - Similar He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in .... from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.

This was absolutely in line with YHWH'S WORD TRUE. Yes. You are right here.

Yes , SCRIPTURE agrees with you. Remember how the Apostle Simon barjona KNEW/SAW that CHRIST is the MESSIAH, the SON of the LIVING YHWH ? Not by study. Not by education. Not by diligence. all of which some or many or all of the scribes and pharisees and saducees had or could have. No. And besides the Apostle Simon barjona, in contrast , SCRIPTURE says , Y'SHUA HIMSELF says, no one , not even one person, can see nor come to the FATHER unless the FATHER draws him.... and also WHO is it WHO is the ONLY ONE who can take away the veil so someone may see ? There is ONLY ONE WHO CAN and DOES.(and HE is not a man) ....

I believe the reference to unclean children was posted a few times. YHWH'S WORD does say which ones are unclean, specifically and clearly according to YHWH..

Remember "Got Questions" ? In this they agree with practically all the other sources: https://www.gotquestions.org/aborted-babies-heaven.html "The Bible does not specifically say whether or not an unborn child who dies goes to heaven. Without a clear passage, we can only speculate."

That is the same question I asked/posted, except not what someone believes, but what does HIS WORD SAY ?

Really? Some missionaries from the usa (a methodist church) to france (paris I think) a few years ago said the country/people are very much without GOD.

YHWH gives very specific direstions in HIS WORD, OT , and NT, and maybe most important today REVELATION - since the list of who and what is unclean is very specific, and tells who is NOT IN HEAVEN. (few make it)

What exactly does YHWH say in THE BIBLE about unclean children and unclean heathen ?

Amein ! Y'SHUA prayed the FATHER that the disciples of JESUS would be protected by YHWH'S WORD and that they all may be(on earth) ONE ("ECHAD") the SAME as the FATHER and the SON are ONE ("ECHAD") throughout eternity. And so it is, exactly as Y'SHUA MESSIAH KING SAVIOR REDEEMER HEALER COMFORTER SHEPHERD prayed.

"Just like in Egypt"? When the Israelites were slaves and had no choice, except!!! TO PRAY and TO SERVE YHWH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and HE delivers us from all of our afflictions; man cannot)

Similar questions have come up the last few years, as people spend thousands on animals, yet neglect their own family and neighbors . This is quite widespread in the untied states. Even killing animals is considered worse than killing babies, and there are laws that make it seem so. Animals in the BIBLE are those useful for life, needed for producing food or being food , and YHWH gave instructions to care for the animals (even to feed them BEFORE feeding ones self, apparently).... But slaughtering animals from birds to oxen to LAMBS, was very common and expected and required. Like in america in the early years of white man's settling here, any animal that was a nuisance was (or could be) dispatched ..... simple. Now, animals are put on a pedestal , by society and governments (legally)..... It is truly a joyful thing to see animals give birth, whether a cow, or a litter of kittens or puppies - A WONDER TO BEHOLD ! Oh, when did sheep dogs start being used ? Perhaps those were some of the earliest pets. Cats, not so early on. Having any animal inside a house is a relatively recent phenomena, and may be very difficult to have even a cat or a dog inside a house and keep it clean.... (BIBLE "CLEAN") They seem to make wonderful companions sometimes, but sadly seems to take the place of "2 or 3 gathered together speaking of ME (YHWH/GOD) " .... Broken, separated families everywhere today....

Peace, I (Y'SHUA) give, not like the world gives, give I to you. Yes, the SAVIOR gives PERFECT PEACE (not confusion, not argumentativeness, not rebellion, not lawlessness, not chaos nor anarchy nor democracy) .... to all those who love HIM, who keep HIS COMMANDMENTS, who REJOICE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, in HIS LAW (TORAH), with a THANKFUL HEART FULL OF PRAISE..... YHWH (GOD) is WORTHY TO BE PRAISED, out loud, amongst the people, in the open and in secret prayer closet, praise HIM! Note: blessed is the man who is not offended by Y'SHUA, and abiding in Y'SHUA "nothing shall offend them". Compare that to how many we see offended by mere words....

Yes, and it wearies the saints, the true saints of YHWH living by faith born again in Y'SHUA. Like all the faithful born of YHWH set apart believers in OT and NT and since then, we are worn out and like LOT in sodom we are hard pressed by all the wickednesses all around all of us. In the few pockets all over the world where the saints honor YHWH'S WORD, and live according to HIS WORD, there is JOY FOREVERMORE and PEACE THAT PASSES UNDERSTANDING and RIGHTEOUSNESS, even when just 2 or 3 are gathered together talking about YHWH together (instead of about the traditions of men who "full well reject the commandment of YHWH(GOD) ").

YHWH raises up who HE wants to raise up, YHWH takes down who HE wants to take down. and in all for those who love HIM, who are called according to HIS PURPOSE >> Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good ... biblehub.com/romans/8-28.htm - Cached - Similar And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them. Proverbs 16:4 The LORD works out everything to its proper end ... biblehub.com/proverbs/16-4.htm - Cached - Similar The LORD works out everything to its proper end-- even the wicked for a day of ... All the works of Lord Jehovah are for those that submit to him, and the evil ... Yahweh has made everything for its own end-- yes, even the wicked for the day of evil. ... If men make God's glory their end, and his will their rule, he will direct their ...

Do you mean a test, to offer people a wayward way, to see if they will take it ?

Do you mean like "look on cragslist" ? Or in a dictionary ? Where things can be found many days...... "you all" is a smoking gun, sort of. But yes, keep seeking for those who live around you who live godly lives, and anywhere you go, seek honest people. Stay in prayer all the time, every day, seeking YHWH'S KINGDOM - some say "seek GOD'S FACE" - to know HIM and HIS WILL. HE reveals this as we seek HIM, it is the PROMISE of HIS WORD.

I'm not sure "socially responsible" is found in the WORD OF YHWH (THE BIBLE)..... All through the OLD TESTAMENT and the NEW TESTMENT society was opposed to the BIBLE, against and contrary to GOD, and persecuted the children and the people of GOD..... i.e. "socially responsible" carries with it centuries of gruesome persecutions all over the world even thru recent years. Obediently following HIS WAY, like Enoch, is PERFECTO' ! YES! Or even better perhaps, "follow JESUS", and live as HE lives. Against such there is no law (in GOD'S SIGHT) - but you can get arrested in the united states just for giving away food needed to a poor hungry person..... (good example where "socially responsible" i.e. law abiding, is directly in conflict with GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.... one of many examples in the usa.

This is a valid concern. Yes. YHWH provides the only solution, in HIS WORD, by faith in Y'SHUA MESSIAH.

Well, that's not what YHWH'S WORD says, remembering in contrast since the greatest portion of the world's population has always been unclean, (unsaved also), except potentially 2 times since the creation, and since YHWH says this (which you did not look up in the earlier/ever reference to YHWH'S WORD differentiating between clean and unclean (heathen) children) >>> from http://biblehub.com/commentaries/acts/23-9.htm " ....‘else were they unclean;’ that is, heathen children, not to be owned as a holy seed, and therefore not to be admitted into covenant with God, as belonging to his holy people. That this is the true import of the words ακαθαρτα and αγια, will be apparent from the Scriptures, in which the heathen are styled the unclean, in opposition to the Jews, who were in covenant with God, and therefore styled a holy people...." and this "ἐπεὶ ἄρα κ.τ.λ[1121]] because according to that (if, namely, that ἡγίασται did not hold good; comp 1 Corinthians 5:10), i.e. because otherwise your children are unclean, profane. That Christians’ children are not profane, outside of the theocratic community and the divine covenant, and belonging to the unholy κόσμος, but, on the contrary, holy, is the conceded point from which Paul proves that the non-believing husband is sanctified through his believing wife; for just as in the children’s case, that which makes them holy is simply the specific bond of union with Christians (their parents); so, too, in the case of the mixed marriage, the same bond of union must have the same influence.[1123]" =================================================================Note that YHWH'S WORD gives assurance to ONE or TWO BELIEVING SPOUSE/PARENTS , not to heathen parents where both parents are unclean.

Apparently it is just an argument of the Pharisees against the Scribes, and it is not what Paul had told them , as illustrated in this commentary : http://biblehub.com/commentaries/acts/23-9.htm "Barnes' Notes on the Bible A great cry - A great clamor and tumult. The scribes - The learned men. They would naturally be the chief speakers. Of the Pharisees' part - Who were Pharisees, or who belonged to that party. The scribes were not a distinct sect, but might be either Pharisees or Sadducees. We find no evil in this man - No opinion which is contrary to the Law of Moses; no conduct in spreading the doctrine of the resurrection which we do not approve. The importance of this doctrine, in their view, was so great as to throw into the background all the other doctrines that Paul might hold; and, provided this were propagated, they were willing to vindicate and sustain him. A similar testimony was offered to the innocence of the Saviour by Pilate, John 19:6. But if a spirit or an angel ... - They here referred, doubtless, to what Paul had said in Acts 22:17-18. He had declared that he had gone among the I Gentiles in obedience to a command which he received in a vision in the temple. As the Pharisees held to the belief of spirits and angels, and to the doctrine that the will of God was often delivered to people by their agency, they were ready now to admit that he had received such a communication, and that he had gone among the Gentiles in obedience to it, to defend their great doctrine of the resurrection of the dead. We are not to suppose that the Pharisees had become the friends of Paul or of Christianity. The true solution of their conduct doubtless is, that they were so inflamed with hatred against the Sadducees that they were willing to make use of any argument against their doctrine. As the testimony of Paul might be turned to their account, they were willing to vindicate him. It is remarkable, too, that they perverted the statement of Paul in order to oppose the Sadducees. Paul had stated distinctly Acts 22:17-18 that he had been commanded to go by the Lord, meaning the Lord Jesus. He had said nothing of "a spirit or an angel." Yet they would unite with the Sadducees so far as to maintain that he had received no such command from the Lord Jesus. But they might easily vary his statements, and suppose that an "angel or a spirit" had spoken to him, and thus make use of his conduct as an argument against the Sadducees. Men are not always very careful about the exact correctness of their statements when they wish to humble a rival."

Well, several times "unclean" was referenced , as in nothing "unclean" enters heaven.... and the refence to which children are clean and which are unclean in the NEW TESTAMENT also.... and , why ? besides - NO ONE , in the last what, 2000 years, has shown any SCRIPTURE ("HIS WORD") that shows babies go to anywhere (including heaven) in general, except probably "to the grave" .... There is no INJUSTICE with YHWH THE CREATOR, so if ALL AND EVERY BABY along with all the children and adults who drowned in the flood are resurrected in shame and judgment, instead of to everlasting life, that is YHWH'S judgment, with perfect wisdom and perfect knowledge and with no iniquity in HIMSELF. Perhaps no one will know until they are resurrected. (and even then, perhaps not - YHWH'S CHOICE)....

Darwin reportedly repented of coming up and publishing the "theory" (still just a theory, with no basis in fact) before he died. Whether true or not (that he repented) , he was possibly aware that nothing found out that is not in line with YHWH'S WORD is of any benefit - everything that opposes YHWH'S WORD is sinful and not to be studied, practiced nor even dabbled in. The more people gave in to the troops in germany misleading the youth, the more their families and society was destroyed, and the faith of those who went along with it. Unless YHWH builds the house, they labor in vain who work on it. Respect* of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom and knowledge (nothing can be known or learned apart from HE grants it). *Respect = more often quoted "fear of", not as in terror, but in a healthy good relationship recognizing the CREATOR.

I believe everyone tries to obey the rules when they join the boy scouts, the army, a corporate business(any business), a school, a club, or become a citizen of a country. --- all of these have rules to keep. The problem is not keeping the rules.. It is trying to be justified from keeping the rules - instead of repenting. When someone repents and is immersed for their sins, and they are forgiven, they love keeping the rules from then on, and their conscience bothers them if they don't, until either they repent again, or it gets too seered to feel and to know right from wrong any more.