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I am amazed, after hearing situations like this so often, that I am still so shocked each time I hear of something new. I am glad I am still so shocked though!! satan is SO sleigh and deceitful! I pray for this man and all those who hear his teaching and may be influenced by it.

Jayne, I see you are a school teacher too. I also taught in a Christian school and public schools...for 20 yrs. I do agree with you...this is humanity's problem! As seen in the two abortions situations we cited, there are many different circumstances that the women experience that may lead them to take the route they do. I think the first thing that has to happen is for women to view abortion as wrong...murdering a child(as with the woman I was speaking of) . Since society....humanity....increasingly says it's o.k., and even good...we will see fewer females taking the Christian view. And look at the young lady you wrote about. Everyone around her compelling her to get the abortion...she is so young, she doesn't even understand the implications of what she is doing! Something has to be done about this in society, but I don't think we can lump all abortions together and say "punish". Then we come to the physicians....the knowledgeable ones we look to for help and truth...and we get lies and advice that benefits them.

I could not say this any better than what Patriot said. Matter of fact, I also have someone in my life that I tried unceasingly to minister to. They would have no part of it. I finally came to understand it was God that would bring about circumstances for witnessing to take place.....so I pray and pray. I love the person but do not push. It is in God's almighty hands, and I pray daily for this person. Remember your love and affection will be a wonderful testimony for Jesus Christ.

This is very thought provoking...so different from one situation I know. I knew this 28 yr old woman who had four abortions for the reason of birth control. She was stable in areas of her life as far as family, financial, (not too sure about emotional). She talked to me about it and admitted it was the lifestyle she chose...and with men she barely knew. She said she just couldn't have a baby around...so this was her birth control. I think with situations so different as these two, there is no one answer as to punishment. Different levels of punishment, mandatory therapy????

Welcome! I find giving thanks to God daily....and throughout the day for even small things, helps me to know He is with me and loving me personally

Amen and beautifully said!!

I agree with this, and also I think the more we give thanks for even the small blessings, the more we recognize and acknowledge things in our lives as blessings.

I have found that it is important when dealing with these young people, that you know something of the things in their life. But this being said, I cannot imagine the toll it takes on you to deal with this depth of toxicity daily. I know the toll it has taken on me....and I have just taught in rural America. My heart was wrenched countless times through working with children surrounded by dysfunctional families, poverty, drugs, abuse, mental and physical disabilities due to the mother's prenatal drug use.....but what was not overt in these rural areas was the underlying cancer.....satan. Our young people are lured by the siren song of music such as you showed above. Their pastimes as you described are ouija boards, virtual gaming. ghost hunting, paranormal tv shows....and I know you've seen much, much more. Concepts in new age such as channeling, out of body experiences, and talking with the dead, are flooding our young people .They have to have someone who knows Christ Jesus and is willing to take the time with them...and pray. But they are not going to listen to you if they feel you know nothing of them and their experiences. I admire your fortitude, and your love for people shines forth. I pray for you and your ministry. I pray that God will lead, guide, and protect you and your family...in what you do. God Bless You

Catsmeow, I really think you have keyed in to the pulse of what is really going on with our young people. It's a really scary thing. I taught elementary school for 15 years. The really young would come to me and tell me about the movies they had watched and loved (like Saw).. that I wouldn't let my pets watch! Negativity, and satanic concepts inundate the music. You can really see what it is doing to many young people. In your position, I can see where you need to know what is going on in their entertainment, which is usually their life.

God bless you! We need our Secret Place or private time with our Lord to grow in our relationship with Him. What a wonderful daily walk with our Lord Yeshua!! You have expressed this eloquently.....Amen!

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. Jeremiah 29:11 This verse is very special to me because God led me to it during a hard time in my life. Remember, just as your body needs food for nourishment....your spirit needs spiritual food to thrive and grow...and to find comfort. This comes from reading God's Word. Pray before you read the Bible, and ask that He guides you as you read. You have reached out to our only hope, Jesus Christ. In doing this you are already blessed...

Thank you OakWood. That makes it somewhat clearer for me.

Just wondering....why does God send the delusion to the wicked if they already don't want to believe?

Praying for peace for Jerusalem.

I am so glad that you asked Jesus Christ into your life, and I am so glad of His promise to forgive of us our sins when we confess! God bless you

This is a time to find out what God wants you to do. That is the ONLY way you will be happy. Maybe He wants you to spend time just with Him for I while. Know one can tell you what is between you and God....but I will tell you what happened to me. After a very serious breakup, I felt dejected and betrayed. I felt unloved and unworthy of love. I tried dating some and it was awful! I finally submitted to God and prayed...He let me know He wanted me to spend time with Him, getting to know Him better. I took this to heart and did not pursue other relationships. One day, our of the blue, this thought came into my mind...a still, quiet voice that said..I am preparing someone for you in the same way I am preparing you for them. Oh, the light I felt in my heart...............A few months later I met my now husband...and he is wonderful. Been married 14 years..and each day is better than the last. Just pray and listen for God...this is the only way you will be happy in life. I am praying for you.

I really don't thing you have gotten away with any sins. If you are truly saved, God will deal with your heart, as He seems to be already doing. You will not be happy in your sins, and will certainly not be trying to get away with sins. As you grow in Christ Jesus, you will feel the need more and more to do God's will.

Isaiah 55:8-9King James Version (KJV) 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. God knows the best way to handle things. Many times we, yes even Christians really think we know the right way something should be done, but God in his ultimate wisdom says no, that way won't accomplish anything, but do it my way....it's the only true way. I wonder, if God had just laid all his truths out, easy to understand...would we have the need to do daily searching, asking Him to help us understand, growing closer to Him daily as we pray for his truth....and then feeling His awesome spirit each time He shows us what He wants us to know. This builds our relationship with Jesus Christ...oh what a wonderful walk with Him! I do believe our past experiences and preconceived notions often do get in the way though of our understanding of what He is showing us....but God is patient and knows our life...and will lead us to truth.

I know this sounds crazy, but if spasms or charlie horses (as we call them), happen at night...we use a bar of soap under the bed sheets. It as worked for me for years, and others that I know.

All your responses are so wonderful and have really touched my heart. I feel God led me to Worthy, and I thank Him for that blessing!

I would love to meet you in chat sometime too. And no, my husband is not much of a chatter, except when it comes to fuel pumps, haha, which is his line of work. Matter of fact he travels to Canada 2 or 3 times a year for this.....maybe I can go someday. But I have been really blessed, because God sent me a wonderful believer( husband), who does seem to like to listen to me...and I do like to talk! I had to take an early retirement because of rheumatoid arthritis and I am really having a hard time without the interaction I had daily with the children. The Lord is certainly teaching me a lot right now, but it is so hard adjusting emotionally....not having the daily interaction.

Thanks for the encouragement! I'm a retired school teacher...used to talk all the time. Now I'm at home, all I talk to now is my husband and dogs....and they don't say much..haha..!.but I hope they enjoy listening. I will try the chat room soon.

This means so much to me. I will be seeing my brother this weekend and this post makes me want to be even more loving and patient toward him....really let him see the love of Jesus Christ.

I would love to go to the chat room but I think fairly slowly and examine everything I'm going to type. Some one would have to wait all day to get my response....it would be all over Worthy....who is that person in chat that takes an hour to say hi.

Thank you all for your response. I would like to respond to each and every post because they are so heartfelt and thought provoking...but that would take much time and space....SOOO...thank you all! I would like to say that I do believe that when we truly accept Jesus Christ as our Savior, really repent, and trust Him with our life.....we cannot be lost, or in other words He will not and cannot lose us. I do wonder sometimes though.....what about the seed that grows,and then the plant is strangled by worldly cares and this could be the situation of some people that are alcoholics that try to self medicate to help them cope in life. Were these individuals not sincere enough when they first accepted Christ or were they actually saved and God will bring them back into obedience? I guess it could be either way........All I know is...PRAISE THE LORD AND THANK HIM FOR LOVING US!!! Because I know I could not make it a step without Him, or even live without Him! I will be seeing my brother this coming weekend and these posts made me even more determined to show him patience and love......the love of Jesus Christ.