mikefromwichita

Would you REALLY allow your children to be killed rather than take up a weapon to defend them? BTW, do you Vote?

God most generally expects us to work for our bread.

You have 'discussed' nothing and we are not having a 'conversation'. You obviously are unprepared to speak regarding the subject at hand so you resort to this passive-aggressive routine. I am done with you. Time to put you on IGNORE.

Thing is I did not 'come at you'. Please stop playing the victim. You are not a victim of anything other than of your desire to exert passive-agrressive control over strangers on a messageboard. If I bother you that much put me on IGNORE.

The question is still open-How does one tell the difference between Caesar and the head of a criminal conspiracy? I will further contend that the Christian is required to submit to 'caesar' only to the extent that government law is in sync with God's Law. I. INTRODUCTION Christians have traditionally interpreted the famous passage "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God, the things that are God’s," to mean that Jesus endorsed paying taxes. This view was first expounded by St. Justin Martyr in Chapter XVII of his First Apology, who wrote, And everywhere we, more readily than all men, endeavor to pay to those appointed by you the taxes both ordinary and extraordinary, as we have been taught by Him; for at that time some came to Him and asked Him, if one ought to pay tribute to Caesar; and He answered, u2018Tell Me, whose image does the coin bear?' And they said, u2018Caesar's.' The passage appears to be important and well-known to the early Christian community. The Gospels of St. Matthew, St. Mark, and St. Luke recount this "Tribute Episode" nearly verbatim. Even Saying 100 of non-canonical Gospel of Thomas and Fragment 2 Recto of the Egerton Gospel record the scene, albeit with some variations from the Canon. But by His enigmatic response, did Jesus really mean for His followers to provide financial support (willingly or unwillingly) to Tiberius Caesar — a man, who, in his personal life, was a pedophile, a sexual deviant, and a murderer and who, as emperor, claimed to be a god and oppressed and enslaved millions of people, including Jesus' own? The answer, of course, is: the traditional, pro-tax interpretation of the Tribute Episode is simply wrong. Jesus never meant for His answer to be interpreted as an endorsement of Caesar's tribute or any taxes...................................................... https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/03/jeffrey-f-barr/render-unto-caesar-amostmisunderstood-newtestamentpassage/ Interesting exposition on the question at hand.

OK, you have no answer. Got It.

Sooooo, you are aware that thugs and terrorists buy body armour with money they extort. Does that make them Governments?

You may PERSONALLY forgive a murderer but the Community MUST send them to the gallows. Christian forgiveness is not a get Out of Jail Free card for the depraved.

You have no Christian Duty to be a doormat.

Sooo reason me this- Just HOW do you tell the difference between Caesar (a legitimate government) and a gang of thugs looking for protection money?

It is not just the prog left, the neocons are equally bad and in many of the same ways.

First off it is very very unlikely that hrc won the popular vote once one subtracts from her total 3 million or so 'votes' cast by non-citizens and another 2 million or acts of vote fraud in various forms by the DNC and the clinton campaign. Popular vote nation wide does not mattwr in any case. What matters is a majority of popular vote state by state sufficient to win 270 electoral votes.EVEN THERE a faithless elector could defy the popular majority in a state and cast their ballot for someone else even a someone else who was not a general election candidate. This very day the clinton thugs are using threats of murder to scare electors away from their Duty to vote Trump.

I would take the Issue to the Elders of this mans church.

Not at all atypical. OTOH...............chest pains and not going can be a show stopper.