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Why do you think Jesus made wine, for his mother came to him telling him they ran out of wine. now if your going to nit pick every statement, you'll have a hard time getting through scripture, a lot of things are common sense, yea she didn't directly say Son make more wine, but it doesn't take a rocket sciencetist to figure out why Mary came to Jesus about running out of wine, because Mary knew Jesus could fix the shortage of wine. Jesus answer, woman why are you concern with this, my time has not come yet, not word for word but along those lines, surely she was asking him to do something.

Jesus is the buffer zone, when people loose their way, people are treated as prodigal sons and daughters. hatred, revenge etc. is God business.

Gen 1:9 looks pretty good to me, and the dry land UNO, doesn't say and the dry lands appear.

typo, any person

I agree, when Mary ask Jesus to make more wine, IMO she was concerned with worldly things, like wanting the reception to go smoothly, I do believe she was a blessed woman, a amazing woman, but just like anyone person we can be concerned with worldly things that are not really that important. Ok so what if people would have left the reception saying o my they ran out of wine quick, what a poor wedding reception.

From the wedding in Cana, when Mary ask Jesus to make more wine, the Catholics took that as a act of compassion for the guest at the wedding thus, the Intercessor was spawned. bazaar for sure but that is how it got started.

I think it was Saul of the OT who was contacting a mediator for answers, didn't end well for him

No sir, not doubt a twisted doctrine, they use the saints as well, as Intercessors depending on the level of sin, if it's not to bad then one of the saints is good enough, but if one sins really bad then its Mary a person needs to be praying too.

there's that old saying, hate the game not the players,

Agreed, as you mentioned that was life under the law, even when Jesus was preaching throughout the land.

Time is something I believe God created for our universe the physical, beyond the physical is infinity, I can say we don't know exactly but your analogy of a beginning and end of God, well that could be a repeating process, scripture does say anything is possible with Him as well its forever and ever. cycle or no cycle. those scriptures you mention, another time frame (a watch in the night) is 3 hours a thousand years is like 3 hours.

Luke 2:22-24 When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”), 24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons." The verses above was done after Mary had to go through the purication period after having a child that was the law in the OT, different length of days depending on if the child was a female or male. First though after eight days Joseph and Mary circumised the child, then Mary could not inter into the temple until she forfilled the purification rites as required and written in the OT. so it was about a month and half before they took Jesus to the temple for the two dove sacrifice, and by them using that we can know that Joseph and Mary didn't have a lot of money. the Magi came months and months after the birth of Jesus.

Yea that guy has lost his mind.

So your saying the post incarnated body had all the same holes in the hands and hole in His side.

I've learned that the Catholic's doctrine, believe Mary is a Intercessor between Jesus and people. this seems bazaar to me, they believe the wine running out at the wedding was a act of compassion on Mary's part thus why the doctrine was spawned, if there was a false teaching then this is the icing on the cake. IMO the doctrine that Mary is a Intercessor is completely bazaar to me, to say the least. what are other people's thoughts about the Intercessor thing of the Catholic faith.

Yea I figured that, yet studying more on how quasar's work can be useful I think, they have something in common.

My question about the article is how science knows time doesn't exist in a black hole when nothing can get near one to take a reading or what ever, is the theory that time doesn't exist in a black hole just theory, how does science prove such a thing? As well prove light doesn't exist in a black hole. plasma is a form of light that is invisible to the human eye, and other forms as well. do we have advance enough equipment to even view it, that can be debated for we don't know what the right equipment would be to handle such a journey near a black hole or even if it's possible with man.

Well from what happened it is apparent Angels have free will to choose as well, for if they didn't satan would not have rebelled. he chose to disagree.

Hey cool thread, in my opinion the same body he was crucified , yet with the wounds healed not over but healed.

The only problem is with your flat earth theory is your using flat two dimensional photos.

The word "Planets" is mentioned in scripture, search it.

Well I guess Mars is not a planet it's not mentioned in scipture either yet a person can clearly see it at night with a telescope or with the naked eye at the right time when the planet is close enough. many folks keep God in a box.

And a million years is like a minute to God,

True though is it necessary that can be debated, some would say yes and some would say no.

Marry Christmas Enoch, have a good day...