R. Hartono

The tithe practice is so unGodly that pastors visited believers' house to calculate all value of the assets including Cars, tv etc and determine the amount of money to clean all sins. Why cant the pastors receive whatever is given like those 70 disciples sent by Jesus ? Instead of demanding tithe as a 10% mandatory money, God of the Bible never ask for money. Its a stumbling stone and slandering God. Tithe does not belong to a christian just because somebody is a pastor. Its God Law and its belonged to the Levit, to change it into money for others is not Biblical and not commanded. A pastor who preached and write that Tithe is not Biblical has been fired by his denom here, other pastors fear and remain silent to safe their bellies. At least i have alerted dozens thousand viewers here in this muslim nation that the God of the Bible never asked money. Both of you please explain why 10% ? The Priest of levit only rcvd 1/100. Even if you copy paste 1/100 you Will be stoned to death if you live 2000 years ago in israel. Many pastors have poor knowledge of historical tithe. Become a stumbling stone and destroyer of Christianity. They will face God to answer, not me.

You dont have to know the meaning when somebody speaks in tongue, its between him and God.

We do not always have the opportunity of sharing in Christian Forums, the time will come when Christianity shall be banned with all discussions in the Christian Forums, without you need to close any topics.

So often i read about the desperate christians coming into many Christian Forums, telling people of their hopeless situation, jobless, homeless, abused by family and needed to get out of the house, etc. and the only place they could find is the Christian Forums, NOT THE CHURCH. What a pity, these people are our brothers and sisters unable to face competition of the world and neglected by government, if not us who help them who else will ? If we cannot shelter them in our house how about using the asset of the church to help sheltering them ? Any church is able to help small number of just two or three people and it doesnt require permission for emergency. What is that million dollar church buildings for ? Do we realise the world doesn't need that expensive buildings ?, but they need a place where they can be saved and feel the love of Jesus healing and protecting them in need. Instead many churches have been built like a commercial university where people learn Theology and pay the abused tithe. I often post this below picture of how actually a church should serve God, may be some of you are bored to see this, if we really want our fellow christians in need to find help instead of sharing their story at Christian Forums only. If your church cannot do this howbeit you people can shelter them at your beautiful house. Won't the world praise the churches and glorify God seeing your good deed ? There will be no Bible in the coming antichrist NWO and all churches shall be banned, we do not own that buildings forever and its coming to an end. What i see is some christian ministries trying to convert a slum area of unbelievers by quoting verses on the streets. God said HEAL PEOPLE FIRST then you can start talking about the kingdom of God, Luke 10:9 Heal the sick who are there and tell them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you. If we are not gifted with healing, then bring medical aids, food for the hungry. If we cannot help fellow christians howbeit we want to help the world. I seriously question all pastors why its this old granny with her old bones who was serving the desperate people. Its not the big palace style church that i want to visit. Never.

Every body needs money as well as pastors but to copy paste tithe as starting point is not Biblical principle of cheerful giver. 2 Cor 9:6-7 Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

Sure God understands your English but Holy Spirit has His own language for His sacred purpose. GLOSOLALIA IS BETWEEN YOU AND GOD TO STRENGTHEN FAITH. 1 Cor 14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue (glosolalia) edifieth himself... WE UTTER GLOSOLALIA WHEN OUR GROANINGS CANNOT BE UTTERED THAT IT HURT DEEPLY, WE THEN LET HOLY SPIRIT TAKE OVER AND PRAY FOR US IN THE BAD SITUATION. Rome 8:26 .... for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Here parents rush to bring their young children to the needles as the vaccine agents have made deals with health authority, its now the job of nurses to inject children with future promising jab.

Its the manifestation of Holy Spirit. @Seeker1834 @Sower

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/20220209135647-7-314081/penampakan-masjid-di-jakarta-tampung-isolasi-mandiri-covid-19 The churches once gathered to discuss the idea of helping government to provide some space for Covid quarantine until the pandemic is over. The idea remains a heroic idea as they feared people will leave them for good. Not a single church accepts. They speak that Jesus is love love love only........and fear people will leave.....

Most is shaped by their parents attitude who failed to teach love and sharing.

The 72 disciples did not ask mandatory 10% of people's money like those present church pastors are doing. This nation is the largest followers of Arab religion and they know the church demand 10% but thats not true, God of the Bible never asked for money and those pastors will face God to answer. Tithe is one of the 613 Mitzvot of Torah, you took all or leave all n its commanded to the 12 tribes of Hebrew, not to church.

There will be no armies at Jesus millennium as weapons will be made ploughs. Those are civilians provoked by the devil to attack Jesus in jerusalem and to try to replace Jesus with the devil to rule the world.

I guess Chicom will also attack Taiwan if Putin invade Ukraine and Turkey will seek back up from iran and other Arabs to attack israel.

It wont be the Holy Spirit role to put the hook in the jaws and annihilate Gog as the world will return to the OT style after Holy Spirit is removed with the church. Holy Spirit duty is to build the church with 9 gifts of Holy Spirit, not to destroy unbelieving Gog

Those symbol of All Seeing Eye at US dollars and Luciferian lodges, it lied because it is not God's eyes as it pretended to be the all knowing God.

Im not able to interpret your dream Building collapsed could mean destruction ? And the sea could speak about nations. I hope that Isnt about war. Im not sure.

Not true, there are many panda in Wuhan.😂

Why this woman did not see the Covid pandemic ?

Israel gave 4th booster, which means 3rd was not effective, wasnt it ? And pfizer is making a new vaccine for Omicron so the 5th is coming.

John warned the church about the whore of babylon in the book of Revelation. She is drunk with the blood of the saints. The Inquisition.

1 Cor 9:7 speaks about voluntary donation, its very clear, so why many churches still require tithe and Quoting the grashopper threat in Maleachy 3 ?

Imho spiritual christians do not belong to any Hebrew tribe. In the great tribulation where the fullness of gentiles is reached God will return to the Hebrew and assign the testimony work of Salvation to them.

Tithe was never money.

The 4th beast of Daniel came from Rome direction.