Alive

Here is our assurance that the elect will not be deceived. We either believe Jesus's Words and be comforted or not. Matt. 24:24 (NAS20S) “For false christs and false prophets will arise and will provide great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. Mark 13:22 (NAS20S) for false christs and false prophets will arise, and will provide signs and wonders, in order to mislead, if possible, the elect. When the time comes, the elect will know.

Is eschatology doctrine?

Is that statement relevant to this subject matter? What if what is sought is not relevant? Will He show something false because someone wants it? That is impossible--of course. It is abundantly clear to me with the amount of confusion and lack of an interpretation which is clear--that we aren't to know. He will most definitely reveal what the Body requires. In the meantime--occupy and be salt to humanity in hopes of a late season Harvest. He will Return! I await a loud shout and a trumpet announcement. Maranatha.

A little levity can be good. This has been my position for a long time, now and I have typed in many times. I don't believe anybody alive today understands Revelation, but the original audience did because God provided and anointed members to explain it as it circulated. It's kinda like solving a puzzle with lots of missing pieces and overlaying the puzzle with guesswork and much imagination. The core of confusion is bringing to Revelation pre-suppositions and then trying to fit pieces to confirm them.

Some topics, such as eschatology, when discussed on forums are peopled by folks who are sure of their own interpretations of things--or at least conduct themselves as if they are. To suggest that another, is doing just what you are (sure he is correct), makes little sense and gains nothing. We can debate the points using scripture while understanding that the other guy is wanting to do the same as you. Let's do so in love and consideration of each of our shortcomings,

I think it’s been said many times and is not any new revelation. Fruit is the very natural and unforced result of Christ’s working in us. It’s our practical sanctification. When He touches something in us that is not of Himself, we agree with Him and turn from it. Thereby we are changing from one degree of Glory to another. We decrease and He increases. This is Normal for a son.

Perhaps the principle of leaven should be considered in this context…”a little leaven, leavens the whole lump”. I would add a consideration for the foundation upon what the house of Mormon was built.

“A man’s heart plans his way, But the LORD directs his steps.” (Proverbs 16:9 NKJV)

I am offended by that image.

And psalm 91! “He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, “He is my refuge and my fortress; My God, in Him I will trust.” Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler And from the perilous pestilence. He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield and buckler. You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, Nor of the arrow that flies by day, Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness, Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday. A thousand may fall at your side, And ten thousand at your right hand; But it shall not come near you. Only with your eyes shall you look, And see the reward of the wicked. Because you have made the LORD, who is my refuge, Even the Most High, your dwelling place, No evil shall befall you, Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling; For He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you in all your ways. In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone. You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra, The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot. “Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him; I will set him on high, because he has known My name. He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him. With long life I will satisfy him, And show him My salvation.”” (Psalm 91:1-16 NKJV) https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS#Psa._91:1

For those concerned about evil men behind the scenes with great plans for the world. “Why do the nations rage, And the people plot a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying, “Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from us.” He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord shall hold them in derision. Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, And distress them in His deep displeasure: “Yet I have set My King On My holy hill of Zion.” “I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ ” Now therefore, be wise, O kings; Be instructed, you judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.” (Psalm 2:1-12 )

Much of my intense reading of scripture was as a younger man when I had a Thompson Reference Bible in KJV. To this day, I recall many verses ringing in my head…KJV. Also, I still hav that little leather pocket Bible I carried everywhere I bought when I was 19.

Here is one source of choices in reading the Bible in a year. https://www.christianity.com/bible/year/

We have our bibles from ancient of days. Mine sets where I read it regularly. Its all marked up and very comforting to be reminded of things the Lord opened up for me.

I am not the least bit concerned about any of what I see as imaginations gone sci-fi. The Lord, He is God and my body is His temple.

I am prompted to add a word for all, but especially to new Christians. It is so important that you read your Bible each day. It think it’s a good idea to read the psalms, the gospel of John and the letter to the Romans as well as Ephesians. Read prayerfully while asking the Lord’s Help to understand. Our Lord will honor this. When you have questions and you will, please ask someone you trust as well as folks here at Worthy. For a private discussion that only you and ministry can see go here…and start a conversation. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/forum/308-worthy-discussions/

We often forget such fundamental truths in the hectic nature of day to day lives. Relative of course. But even when we are not focused on these truths each of us are sustained…we are kept safe in Christ. Even those seasons when it seems He is far away. I have been thinking a lot lately about the Reality of the Great Shepherd. Psalm 23 is an oldie but oh so relevant. Praise His Name.

Are you serious? Romans 11:25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. Romans 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;

Fantastic News! Praise the Lord and Lord sustain them and give them a powerful outpouring of your Spirit and raise up those whoo will edify, encourage and teach.

Now that is funny!

Bibi simply knows that Iran cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

I have a tablet that is nearly unused that you can have.

We who are in Christ sojourn on this earth and are subject to many things both in the world and within our own flesh and minds. I offer two analogies that have been helpful to myself during my walk and I hope and pray may be of help to others of my family in Christ. I think in terms of two analogies, neither of which are perfect, but have been of some help to me over the years. 1. A tree 2. The land When God made us Alive 'In Christ' the source of our life changed from the earthly to the heavenly. He essentially and in a very real way severed us from the kingdom of darkness and transferred us into His Kingdom. We being like a tree have been uprooted and turned upside down with our roots now in the heavens where we draw all of our strength and blessings. However, the branches are still in this earthly realm and subject to much of what this realm exudes. Our branches are always catching flying things that wish to land there and affect our thinking and yank on our flesh. We have this Treasure in earthen vessels. Through His word (scriptures) rhema and our brethren, we learn to shew away those birds. God will touch something in us and we respond with a "yes Lord", thus agreeing with Him and through this ongoing process are 'changed into His likeness'. 2Corinthians 3:18 And we all, with unveiled faces, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another, just as from the Lord, who is the Spirit. This is all the Lord's doing. It is only because of 'New Life' that we are able to say 'Yes Lord'. The other is the 'Land' and I will attempt to connect this aspect of our ongoing sanctification. When the Israelites were entering the Land as the Lord had ordained and commanded the inhabitants were driven out or not, the Lord was establishing His Kingdom on earth. A place set aside for His purpose and for our learning. I see the Land as a metaphor for our ongoing sanctification. When He touches something in us that is not of Him, and we say 'yes Lord' and thus give our loyalty to Him rather than the flesh and the earth, He reigns there. His Kingdom is in a very real way established in us. Philippians 2:13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. It is needful and healthy to remember that it is all His Working in us. Jesus said, "you can do nothing without me". "No thing". Not some things, or things of a category or another! No thing. This is the sense and realization as He works in us; to know deep within our being that we need Him to walk, talk, breathe and think. Thus we grow toward that place where He is Lord. We decrease as He increases. Our roots are 'In Him'.

@Debp there is your answer. Thanks @other one