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Hi What real presence? That which works in those yoked with Christ believers ? It became about traditions 2 kinds . . Satan would make it all one in the same . But no man can serve two teaching masters . Tradition whether of dying mankind men earthly inspired of the devil or like rain inspired from above of eternal God . Those who followed the traditions of dying mankind called a law of father" I heard it through the fathers grapevine" as oral tradition Gods tradition as a written law not subject to change by the oral traditions of men.

Hi .I would offer there is a big difference between signs of the times And seeking after a sign to wonder, wonder wonder, after until it becomes sight. Prophecy serves the believer in 3 ways to look ahead to the future . . the things now. . and that which is past .There is no missing information. The living word is sealed with 7 seal till the end of time. No sign to wonder after where given other that the Sign of Jonah. Sign seekers like that of nicodemus before his conversion make Jesus into a circus seal. Do some magic work a miracle then when we see with our own eyes then we will believe and trust . John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe. Signs to wonder after or prophecy ? John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? wonder after signs do not replace prophecy, natural unconverted naturally seek after a sign to wonder after .

Jesus was a Jewish man and Jesus is the first born of many sons of God (Chriritian) God is not a man (creation) .

Defiantly a parable written in a series. Many one right after the other hiding the understanding from the lost revealing it to believers. Like in chapter 14 the beginning of the series of using the rich mammon to represent the wisdom of this world that opposes the wisdom of God hid in the parable The theme throughout. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Chapter 16;13 the key "no man can serve two good teaching masters" the word of God and the traditons of men necromancy communing with the dead relative of men or renown called patron saints by some .. (3500 official and rising) Three times from verse 13 through chapter 16 he uses the authority of his word the "law and the prophets" or Moses and the prophets in one place Moses (law) and Elisa (prophets) to signify as a metaphor as it is written (sola scriptura) three time the unbeliever challenged the form of communion all things writen in the law and prophets. In the end he informed the unbelieving world that even if they see one raise from the dead. . . he would not give them the faith to believe . Believing God is a works of God from faith to the same unseen things of God. Parables teach us how to walk by faith after the unseen things of God Luke 16: 13-17 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16: 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. (God's living word) And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Yes, that's natural man. Those that seek after a sign before they will believe. God sends them a strong delusion Literally making Jesus into a circus seal work . . . your magic. . . then when we see we will exercise faith not one moment sooner (no faith ) John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe. John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? Satan the lying sign go wonder king

Hi thanks for that parable. I deny any sign to wonder or marvel after. wondering, marvling is not believing Its why Jesus said to the sign and wonder seeker Nicodemus "marvel not". . but rather believe as an anchor to ones new soul Satan remains the god or king of lying signs. . . that some wonder after . We must be careful how we hear or say we do. The last sign of Jonas to wonder after is fulfilled .Jesus said natural unconverted mankind seeks after one. They do not have prophecy sealed with seven seals til the last day under the sun . There shall be a famine for hearing the gospel and troubles as a result : Hail and fire mingled with blood, judgment time . The end of time the 7th seal.the believers are given thier new incoruptible bodies The third (.333) part of trees was burnt up leaving 666. 2/3 , and all green grass was burnt. . like grass we depart . Three representing the believers. . . just as green grass and trees . Forty four times it is used to represent the believers new growth. (.666) non believers Mark 8:24And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. Green pastures . Again Green used to represent new life . . .the pouring out of the gospel. Unlike Hail and fire mingled with blood A picture of the dead . Deuteronomy 32:1-2 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

It would seem salt like leaven is used in two ways. . two sides of one coin . One hidden not visible.. the things of God no rise . . the other of men seen rises . Same with salt used in judgment have a little salt when offering the gospel . too much. . Lot's wife. A little salt preserves the faith. keeping us from eating to much honey (selfish pride ) . We boast in the lord. He as our daily bread gives us just enough.

No signs are given .The sign of times History repeating itself all things going on as day one wars rumors, earthquakes. marrying. dying giving birth when mankind fell the God corrupted whole creation in dying leading to death . The last sign to wonder after was the sign of Jonas it was made complete with Jesus the Son of man. Walk by faith (as it is written) the eternal not be by sight (what the eyes see) the temporal. They must be mixed or no gospel rest

The church was reformed and restored removing the government of dying mankind when the veil was rent .There was no King of kings sitting in the holy of holies God is not a Jewish man he is eternal God . Satan could no longer deceive all the nations that God was a man as King of kings .A great tribulation for the Jew that was trusting dying flesh. . . great joy for the nations of the world One like never before or ever again. He will be loosed for a short while at the end of the age and again to deceive all the nation God is a Jewish man . The earliest member was Abel the martyr His blood like the blood of all saints cries out hoping to be clothed with the eternal incorruptible all die not receiving

We are not to worship governments of men.The abomination of desolation. The idea of Israel as outward Jews according the thier dying flesh and blood claiming to have gathered Jacob and not our God . .the gatherer. . it should be looked into . Many seem to forget there are two kinds of Israel. Not all Israel is born again Israel. like a two sided coin one side not seen other the flesh of mankind. We give to the one seen the (Caesars) their side of the coin and the hidden things of God the other side. I would think we must go back to the foundation of the doctrine. Change the meaning of one word destroy the integrity of the whole Like David said in the Psalms. . . destroy the foundation of the doctrines of God what could his children of light do ???? Jacob is signified as the deceiver. His new born again name Israel which the father renamed Christian (residents of the city of Christ prepared for his wife the church. renamed in the book of Acts. Where before as Jacob who did wrestle against flesh and blood without being yoked with God (Easu) He tried to become the first born and grabs the heel of Esau . Genesis 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them. God had a different idea using the second born to represent all those born again beginning with Abel the first martyred apostle prophet Genesis 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Yoked with him resisting flesh and blood . . is made easier . . shared burden Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The chair according to that law of men "law of the fathers". . . I heard it through the fathers grapevine (a derogatory phrase) is the imaginations of one unconverted heart. God is not a man and neither is there any fleshly infalible interpreter as a daysman that sits between God not seen and mankind seen with approval of both Job 9:32-33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both. (God and man) Even Jesus the Son of man when bowed down in worship (Blasphemy) dared not sit in seat of the Father. When called good teaching master (Rabbi) Jesus gave glory to the father and settled the issue. . one is the good teaching master not a legion of fathers called patron saints from earth Mark 10:17-18 King James Version And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Jezebel is used to represent the "strange woman" the spirit of rebellion not the bride of Christ, Christian the beloved . From that kind of spirit the Holy Spirit the false spirit as the spirit of female deity is formed called the queen of heaven (his and hers gods) the strange woman She in her rebellion mocks the word of God making it to no effect(worthless) so that they can serve thier own sinful flesh and see no evil in doing so Jerimiah 44:15 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying, As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. Proverbs 2:16To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words; Proverbs 5:3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil: Proverbs 5:20 And why wilt thou, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger?

Thanks for the reply. . You must of missed it (Jerimiah 44: 15-19 ) I posted it as law of the fathers. . . laws of dying mankind . The same kind Saul followed after before his conversion Murdering the misconved competition looking to the outward flesh of men and not the inward .Murdering torturing others .Buried them under the pagan foundation out of sight out of mind having no faith as it is written that could please God. Acts 22:3-5 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, (sinful men) and was (falsely) zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished. In Acts 24 again under a law of the fathers they pursued Pau and deaired to jusge him acording to thier fleshy standard Acts 24:5-6 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes: Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law. Put they could not prove and called the word of god heresy so that they could keep their own kind of law worshipping a legion of fathers Acts 24:1314 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: (sola scriptura) They worshiped the fathers (legion) not after the one manner our father singular (Mathew 6) Teaching us how to walk by faith the unseen things of God not by sight after a multitude of fathers seen l

In the way kings are men and queens are women . Spoken of as . . Our fathers, our kings, our princes and queens "the earthly government called "royal family" A human form of government after the oral traditons of men that do make the traditions of God (all thing written in His book of prophecy making it without effect.In that way no man can serve two good teachings masters as one Lord of all lords You could say a false idea for the women like that of Jezebel who hated the God of the scripture . women desiring equal rites a female deity with full knowledge of thier husbands . . refusing the hear the gospel informing resisting the Holy Spirit They did it there way looking for freedom but were only bond tighter in their sin The first century reformation has come .A time like never before or ever again a gospel explosion feeling the effects even today Jerimiah 44: 15-19 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying, As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. (no gospel) And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men? Wrong kind of women lib . . earthy governments of mankind

Thanks I would say kings as fathers like any other nation and lords as family heads but not the King of kings and Lord of lords .It's the King of kings that the atheist Jew (1 Samuel 8) rejected as a unseen God reigning over them. . God calls them fools. 1 Samuel 8: 4-7 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah, And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them

The great tribulation had come the veil is rent the government of faith restored > It is still doing it work of restoring the government of faith. It as a labor of Christ's love will continue to the last day under the sun. The son of perdition is the spirit of legion (many) as a lying spirit called a antichrist deceiving mankind (false apostles, false prophets) as another teaching authority other than as it is writen in the book of God's prophecy. As 1 John 2 informs us many were being deceived by the oral traditions of men . . .antichrists (plural) . 1 John 2: 18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (singular) shall come, even now are there many antichrists; (plural) whereby we know that it is the last time. A good example of Christ;s armor defending his faith was used with Peter as one of the many antichrists (plural) false prophets preventedt he Son of man Jesus from doing the Lord's will. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the son of man (flesh and blood ) . The father gave words to Jesus the prophet. God rebuked the spirit of the antichrists' commanded him to get behind God not seen "walk by faith" and not mankind (Peter) seen "walking by sight" Using that parable to teach us how to walk by faith (the unseen things of God) Peter learned . (Not of my own self the things of men ) Evan today some follow Peter who like Frank Sinatra . . . . . did it his way . Mathew 16: 22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Kings in Israel came about because of the atheist Jew no longer desired to serve a invisible God as King of kings and Lord of lords reigning over them. . . having become jealous of the surrounding pagan nations ,God gave them over to do that which thye should not of call the abomination of desolation making our invisible God as King of kings and Lord of lords in effect . Following the commandments of Men the oral tradition of fathers or kings .A hifghearchy of men lording it over the understanding or faith of the non venerable . The first century refomation spoken of in hebrews tore down the walls of separation (both) The veil was rent there was no Jewish King of kings sitting in the holy of holies Satan fell from deceiving all the nations of the world that God is a Jewish man as King of king Lord of lords Revelation 20:3 . . .Satan giving lying power to the powerless dying flesh

Dispensations??? A thousands years are "as if" one year (metaphor) a unknown .Gods finished work work in time periods is not by determined by time periods but the labor of love . The Amil signified understanding works the best. The bride as to its first member as a apostles messenger sent with the gospel is Abel the second born to signified our second birth. His blood like the blood of all saints cries out . The wife of Christ the church did not first take form at the time of reformation it restored the order of the bride The idea that God exercises a labor of love or work of his faith differently from one occasion to another . I dont think is a biblical principle but is a oral tradition of men making God's tradition without effect.

Thanks for that prophecy as a parable . Parables do not take away the simplicity of the gospel "God alone" saving mankind dead in thier trespasses and sin without a living hope coming from eternal God not seen . . .sufferings the pangs of hell . . . dying. Parables can enrich the word and give us the gospel understanding a ceremonial picture to us I would offer in that parable that hides the gospel understanding using one man to signify the son of man, Jesus . . . whom the father sent and worked with to strengthen as an apostle. Killing him would be like killing all the families of the world a wile of the evil one. He hates all flesh . . . .living things seen. The Queen of "off with their heads". lol John 11 :51-53 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.

I would offer no outward sign was given. Jesus said it a evil generation faithless mankind that seek after the temporal thing seen and not the eternal gospel.The last sign of Jonas was finished using the Son of man Jesus over two thousand years ago Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: Matthew 16:4A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed. They are the same ones that made Jesus the Son of man into a Circus Seal . . do a work create a miracle then when we see with our own eyes then they will believe (blasphemy) John 4:4Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe. John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? Clearly showing they had no faith as power coming from God In the Revelation it would seem satan has robbed the glory of God making it about the temporal, the things of this world God can send a famine for hearing the gospel . Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord: We walk by the unseen (faith of Christ ) not by what the temporal eyes see .There must be a mixture working as one according to the mixing prescription given to us by the Father ..(2 Corinthians 4:18) The buying and not selling has to do again with the gospel. We buy it at the cost of Christ the pearl of great price and are empowered to get understanding with it Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding. The question???? Buy the truth of God or uber it? Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. The mark as a understanding . . Whatsoever God says comes to pass .The mark applied to Cain the restless wanderer . The mark of unbelief no faith ...that could please the author and perfecter of eternal life

"Christians are the light of the world" He is the light of the universe . As Children of light we are reflection of his glory just as the moon represent the glory of the sun we have a opportunity to bring glory. In the new heavens and earth the two lights will become one brighter than before there will be no night forever more Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.0 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. Again in the next chapter Revelation 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. The theme using the Sun and the mod to represent the glory of God begins in Genesis. Believers are considered stars on his golden crown

Jesus declared we are not to seek after outward sign as the faithless pagans the last the sign of Jonas was revealed with Jesus the Son of man we have prophecy sealed till the end of time I think the prophet John on the island knew what he was saying as recorded in Revelation in respect to the mark .with memories All the way back to the foundation of the world. The mark of Cain the restless wanderer fearing the shadow of death all the days of his life. No early parole The mark of the living word. What God says as prophecy it comes to pass and it was very good. God alone good . Cain under the influence of Satan the serial murderer from that beginning Murdered and buried him under "out of sight out of mind" Paganism. Murdered his born again brother the apostle Abel to silence the gospel . Cain wanted to die but that was not the plan of God. he was to suffer the pangs of hell with the increased load till his last breath , The pattern of the first born who saw no value in the unseen spiritual things of God ,Onan spilled his seed . .Esau sold it for a bowl of hairy goat soup also seeing no value in the things of God John 8:44King James Version Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Genesis 4:9-15 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him The mark . . .what Christ says comes to pass . Cain the fool

The counterfeit is not supposed to make sense. It is why we search and study the original looking into the historically as one level of learning and the hidden spiritual the gospel understanding hid in parable from natural mankind According to the loving commandment (not just a good suggestion) . . Study rightly dividing /interpreting as his way of us seeking His approval . We learn that which must be rightly divided are parables the poetic tongue of God which without Christ spoke not. Some tools are needed in order to t rightly divide the parables 2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. The temporal and the eternal must be mixed if we are to find the gospel (hebrews 4:1-2 We can learn how to study from thier mistakes . God called it turning thing upside down rather than inspired by God it is earthly after the father of lies one of the many wiles of the evil one Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? In that way oral tradition make the word of God dead / no one can serve two good teaching master as one Lord eternal not seen

Yes signs not seen as metaphors follow that one believes. They speak in a new tongue, the gospel. False prophecy coming from false apostles as the poison of serpents will not harm them. The bible is not promoting we seek after signs rather than prophecy. That would be the work of the devil the lying signs and wonders king of this world. Its why he called Nicodemus a sign and wonder person and declared the greatest possible miracle" born again" .He lovingly commanded him to marvel not .Marveling and wondering is not believing as a anchor to our new born again soul. We have prophecy to the end of time.