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I am not the one making the claim that Paul is preaching a different gospel. Peter warned us that people would misuse Paul's letters to justify their lawless lifestyle.

No believing Israel and Gentiles in Messiah are joined into one body. Ephesians 2 and Roms 9, 10 and 11 explain all this. Believing Gentiles have been grafted into Israel. All the covenants and promises of Israel belong also to believing Gentiles. Its your false doctrine of dispensation is blinding you. God does not have two separate bodies he has one people, one church, one body in which both Jew and Gentile are one.

Loving your neighbor command is not about your inward feelings or emotions towards them its more about how you treat them. When it says to love your enemies, it means to treat you enemies the same way you would treat people you love.

I am having trouble understand the OP. Apparently we are supposed to know who these Rabbis are?

Hmmm? I said, "I think you misunderstood what I was saying" I was being polite. Take it how ever you wish. In the future let me encourage you to not make it habit of telling others how they should word their post. The truth does not change based on your audience. Its the same gospel for Jew or Gentile. Meaning there are no contradictions between the two messages. God does not say to the Jew you must follow the Law to be saved and to the Gentile you are saved by grace alone. God does not play favorites or show partiality. When Jesus instructed his disciples to take the Gospel to all the Nations he did not say here is one gospel message for Jews and here is another gospel for Gentiles. No, he said teach them (nations) to observe EVERYTHING I have commanded you...He did not say give them some watered down version of the Gospel but to teach them to keep everything I have commanded. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe ALL that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." - Mat 28:19-20 ESV

Yet this is what douge is saying that Paul's "gospel" is not the same gospel of Yahshua and Peter/James/John preached. Yet Paul says if any man preach anything different from "his" gospel let them be accused. This would mean Jesus, Peter, John, James, etc are accursed according to what he is saying. He is teaching a Paul Religion.

I think you misunderstood what I am saying. Anyone who brings a different gospel that contradicts Yahshua teaching is a false teacher. I was making an example that Joseph Smith came preaching a false gospel that he claimed he received by divine revelation from Yahshua.

If you believe Paul was given a different Gospel than what Yahshua and his Apostles taught then its not the true gospel. Joseph Smith was given a different gospel too by divine revelation. We are not to follow man but Yahshua. He is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. If someone comes bringing you teachings contradicting our Messiah's teaching its a false gospel. We were warned repeatedly by our Messiah not to be deceived and that many would come in his name teaching a different and false way. It sounds like you are not listening to his warning.

Paul did not need to read the book of Revelation to understand this? Paul knew what the sound of the Shofar represents and about what the Feast of Trumpets represents in the Last Days (call to war and also a call to gather his people). Even today in synagogues Jews sound the Shofar to represents the gathering of God's people. Plus, Jesus spoke about this final trumpet final gathering at his return. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. - Mat 24:29-31 KJV

Yeah that could be the scenario. Either way God's true people who are obedient to him will not suffer his wrath and will be protected. I am sure the were many Israelite's that did not follow the directions of putting the blood on their doors who suffered.

Its not a fact. Its a lie that Satan has sold you on. If you are born of God you do not continue to sin. Yes we are all born in sin, but Jesus/Yahshua came to save us from sin and set us free from sin. If you continue reading 1 John just a few verses later: No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. - 1Jo 3:6-9 ESV

Regarding blotting out and remembering sins no more also works same when we turn from righteousness to sin...all you righteousness will not be remembered only your sin. "But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. - Eze 18:21-24 ESV

Here is one my favorite verses and sums up what God requires similar to Deut 10:12. King Soleman with all his wisdom summed up what the most important duty of mankind is: Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man. - Ecc 12:13 KJV

This is a topic I struggle with because only God knows the answer to this and I think its pointless to dwell on because if God is the Alpha and Omega then he knows the beginning and the end. What we perceive as free will was God's plan all along. I would like to think we have free will but I am not God, but there are too many scriptures that point to God as in control of everything even the bad stuff. The bibles says he declares the end from the beginning. He already knows everything that will happen and it all works out to his Glory. With all that said, we should live as if we have free will and live in obedience to his word.

It was to Peter that God revealed the Gentiles could be saved and It was Peter that first to preach the Gentiles about salvation. All the Apostles were commissioned to take that Gospel to all Nations (Gentiles) not just Paul. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen. - Mat 28:18-20 KJV

So you saying your still a sinner you just dont count it as sin because you do not live by God's law. Your also saying your free to server other gods and idols, blaspheme God's name, commit sexual sins, murder, lie and steal and dishonor your parents, lust and covet because God's law does not apply to you. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. - 1Jo 3:4-9 KJV Even Paul says those who commit such sins will not enter the Kingdom of God: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. - Gal 5:19-21 KJV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. - 1Co 6:9-10 KJV Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them. But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, - Col 3:5-9 NKJV

Aman and God does not change.

Nowhere in scriptures says future sins will be forgiven automatically. I would agree all past sins and present sins are forgiven when we confess and repent of them, but nowhere does it say future sins are forgiven. Future sins are only forgiven if we confess and repent. If we choose to continue in sin and disobey God there is no forgiveness. For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? - Heb 10:26-29 ESV No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. - 1Jo 3:6-9 ESV According to scriptures if we continue sinning thinking we are still okay with God then we have been deceived and we are trampling on the blood of Jesus/Yahshua and despising the Spirit of grace and we can expect a fearful judgement?

No that would be greek vs. hebrew.

Who says you have to continue in sin? God has given us the power and grace to live a life with out sin. Jesus/Yahshua has given us victory over sin. A person who willfully continues to live in sin and disobedience to God has either never been truly born-again or they fallen away from the truth. Does this mean a believer can not sin, No. Our faith will be tried and tested and if we sin we will be convicted by the Holy Spirit to confess and repent. If we repent they will be forgiven. My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; - 1Jo 2:1 NASB

Continue on reading: You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. - 1Jo 3:5-9 ESV

Exactly. Listen to what Jesus/Yeshua said: Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. - Luk 17:3-4 KJV Repentance is required for forgiveness. Its the same way with us and God. For us to receive forgiveness we must repent. If we continue in sin there is no forgiveness. For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? - Heb 10:26-29 ESV

Your failing to see that Jesus/Yahshua is God. He created all things both visible and invisible, he is God(Col 1:15,16). Gen 1: 1 says that God created all things, yet other scriptures say that Jesus created all things (John 1:1-3, Heb 1:2, 1 Cor 8:6). The God that created all things is Jesus. So, with that understanding if God is omniscient then that means Jesus is omniscient.

The Apostles are the body of Christ!!!! Dispensationalism view is false doctrine that would divide believing Jews and Gentiles. If you have been grafted in you are no longer a Gentile but now apart of Israel and of the same body even Paul states this: Therefore remember that formerly Gentiles in the flesh, who are called "Uncircumcision" by the so-called "Circumcision," performed in the flesh by human hands-- that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who made both [groups into] one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall ... for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God's household [Israel], having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner [stone,] in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit. - Eph 2:11-14, 18-22 NASB You were formerly a Gentile...but no longer if you are in Messiah. Believers are grafted into the Promises and Covenants of Israel. Believing Jews and Gentiles have been made one in Messiah fitted together as one body one people. He is the promised Jewish Messiah that was promised to Israel, of which Gentiles have the privilege of accepting. Therefore there is no Jew or Gentile but one body in Messiah. Therefor all that is commanded and promised to Israel is also commanded and promised of Gentile believers who are now apart of Israel. The word Gentile means unconvenanted and cut-off from God's people. If you are a believer you are no longer an unconventanted or cut-off from Israel but now God's people and you are now apart of Israel. Paul says we are now apart of Israel God's people and fellow citizens of all the promises and covenants that belong to Israel we are of the same household, same body of Israel. The New covenant was promised to Israel not Gentiles. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. - Jer 31:31-34 KJV Gentiles have to be apart of Israel to be apart of the New Covenant.

Listen what Messiah told his apostles: And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of ALL NATIONS (Jew and Gentile), baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe ALL that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." - Mat 28:18-20 ESV He did not say go teach Jews one way and teach the Gentiles a different way. No, he said go teach ALL NATIONS to observer (Keep) what I have commanded you. If your gospel is different than what Messiah commanded then your following a false gospel.