AdriaanM Posted April 12, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 12, 2009 I have recently again heard a Pastor tell his people to prophesy over their homes, businesses, lives, marriages and so on. This modern idea is those believers are supposed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC02 Posted April 13, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 447 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/26/1971 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Believers all over the world today are taught to prophecy what they want in their lives and speak it into existence in the Name of Jesus. What is prophecy really and how it is received God can speak things into existence, but not us. It sounds like the 2.0 version of the "name it and claim it" doctrine. Speak all day long, but without the inspiration of the Spirit, there aint nothing to it folks. (Mark 11:24 [KJV]) Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. We need to shut the TV preachers off and get into the Word for ourselves. Without the Word in our spirit, we will believe anything and follow every doctrine that comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.08 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 13, 2009 Believers all over the world today are taught to prophecy what they want in their lives and speak it into existence in the Name of Jesus. What is prophecy really and how it is received God can speak things into existence, but not us. It sounds like the 2.0 version of the "name it and claim it" doctrine. Speak all day long, but without the inspiration of the Spirit, there aint nothing to it folks. (Mark 11:24 [KJV]) Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. We need to shut the TV preachers off and get into the Word for ourselves. Without the Word in our spirit, we will believe anything and follow every doctrine that comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted April 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 13, 2009 Believers all over the world today are taught to prophecy what they want in their lives and speak it into existence in the Name of Jesus. What is prophecy really and how it is received God can speak things into existence, but not us. It sounds like the 2.0 version of the "name it and claim it" doctrine. Speak all day long, but without the inspiration of the Spirit, there aint nothing to it folks. (Mark 11:24 [KJV]) Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. We need to shut the TV preachers off and get into the Word for ourselves. Without the Word in our spirit, we will believe anything and follow every doctrine that comes along. This scripture is what many "name it and claim it" people hold as proof of their faith. What they do not include in this is the preceding verse Jesus spoke, "For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesult Posted April 13, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 326 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/12/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted April 13, 2009 I have recently again heard a Pastor tell his people to prophesy over their homes, businesses, lives, marriages and so on. This modern idea is those believers are supposed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted April 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I have recently again heard a Pastor tell his people to prophesy over their homes, businesses, lives, marriages and so on. This modern idea is those believers are supposed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacey c Posted April 13, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 913 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/29/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/02/1969 Share Posted April 13, 2009 And yet speaking the WORD into your life and the "name it and claim it" garabage are way too different things. The WORD is alive, active and sharper than any two edged sword, and where there are areas in your life be it physical or spiritual you speak life into it by speaking the WORD. The Word is God and God is His Word, how is that not the inspiration of the Holy Spirit? It's by our following after God and our faith in God and what He has given us in His Word that changes our lives. Life and death are in the power of the tongue. Do you speaking curses into your life on a daily basis or do you speak the Word of God (life). Just as the bridle in a horses mouth controls the whole horse, or the listeth on a big ol' ship steers the whole ship, so does your tongue control your life with blessing or cursing. It's not claiming a fat bank account it's saying "My God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in glory" It's not saying I'll never be sick a day in my life, it's when your are sick saying "By His stripes I am healed" It's not saying I'll never know defeat, it's saying "Whereso ever my foot steps He will give me victory" Big difference folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted April 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 13, 2009 There is however a NT Spiritual gift of prophecy. We probably need to wrestle with what the nature of that gifting might be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomi Posted April 14, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 437 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 62 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/13/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/20/1979 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Believers all over the world today are taught to prophecy what they want in their lives and speak it into existence in the Name of Jesus. What is prophecy really and how it is received God can speak things into existence, but not us. It sounds like the 2.0 version of the "name it and claim it" doctrine. Speak all day long, but without the inspiration of the Spirit, there aint nothing to it folks. (Mark 11:24 [KJV]) Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. We need to shut the TV preachers off and get into the Word for ourselves. Without the Word in our spirit, we will believe anything and follow every doctrine that comes along. This scripture is what many "name it and claim it" people hold as proof of their faith. What they do not include in this is the preceding verse Jesus spoke, "For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraught Posted April 14, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have recently again heard a Pastor tell his people to prophesy over their homes, businesses, lives, marriages and so on. This modern idea is those believers are supposed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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