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GM, I agree that a person has the Holy Spirit within them at the time of conversion, but I see too many verses that point to a filling of the Holy Spirit that is needed after conversion to yield to your statement.

This question leaves us open to the tongues debate also because, as I have studied the differing views, there are many answers. You'll just have to delete this thread it before it happens. :blink:

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I'm not getting into the whole gifts thing and I really don't want to either because that's gonna get real ugly. So....

you said: moment a person believes into the Lord Jesus and confesses His Lordship before creation, he is filled with the Holy Spirit.

While I agree with this 100%, I would also add that you must submit to Him per what I wrote previously. Satan believes in God too, Satan knows God is the most high God. That's why I say you must ALSO submit your life to Him.

So I agree with everything you said - I just added something to be more precise.

Actually, I have read more verses that teach our sumbission to the Lord Jesus first. Then the Spirit is allowed to lead accordingly. I do agree that our being consecrated to the Lord is needed for Him to be able to use us, however.

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GM, I agree that a person has the Holy Spirit within them at the time of conversion, but I see too many verses that point to a filling of the Holy Spirit that is needed after conversion to yield to your statement.

This question leaves us open to the tongues debate also because, as I have studied the differing views, there are many answers. You'll just have to delete this thread it before it happens. :t2:

It'll only lead down the "gifts" road if you let it.

I personally believe that the falling of the Spirit upon the apostles on the day of Pentecost was a corporate matter, which was applied to the Body of Christ once and for all, enabling all the members to exercise their gift. I have not found any specific verse that tells us that we have no gift without first having our own personal Pentecostal-type experience.

At any rate, I'll leave my comments there and pursue this course no longer. There are at least half a dozen other posts devoted to this subject. :blink:

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Acts 19

2 he said to them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" So they said to him, "We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit."

3 And he said to them, "Into what then were you baptized?" So they said, "Into John's baptism."

4 Then Paul said, "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus."

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied.

In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug:

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How do you submit your life to God and the Holy Spirit? I've asked the Holy Spirit to fill me but I'm still having problems with habits and stuff...

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Dear worthy board posters. I did not intend to turn this into a battle. I just wanted some insight and wisdom from other mature Christians. I know this is controversial, and again did not mean to ruffle anyone's feathers.

Thank you all for your wisdom and insight. Yes I am saved :D , and I am glad to hear from others that the day I asked Jesus into my heart that I was also filled with His Spirit!!!! This gives my heart peace. I was worried that I had done something wrong.

Thank you for the websight.

http://www.wesleyan.org/sphelps/filled.htm

I would recommend that slimshady read the sight.

After reading "What does it Mean to be Filled With the Spirit?", I see that a lot of my problem is just letting God have all of me. I am a very stubborn person and have been through a lot, some of my own doing, and some not. I am still a work in progress, and praise God that He will finish the work that He has started in me. I just need to remember to not doubt God, and realize that my enemy doesn't want me learning, and growing, so then he will bring opposition. My own doubt or fears.

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