Hindu Mystic in Disquise

[godrulz]

Classical Pentecostals believe that tongues is the initial physical evidence of the infilling/baptism of the Holy Spirit (experience subsequent to salvation). They also tend to be pre-trib./pre-mill., etc. Charismatics believe in tongues, but do not agree with the above statement of faith (initial, physical evidence; eschatology).

Pentecostal denominations formed in the 1900s when believers in other churches who experienced the charismata were kicked out of their denominations. Charismatics are those in traditional, non-charismatic denominations who speak in tongues, emphasize the gifts, etc. i.e. charismatics are 'Pentecostals' that remain in their Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, Lutheran churches, etc. The early 1900s saw the birth of the modern Pentecostal movement. The 1960s saw a charismatic revival in the mainline Catholic, Anglican, etc. churches. The next wave of the Spirit was into the evangelical churches like Baptist, etc. (John Wimber/Peter Wagner, etc.; Vineyard; Fuller Seminary). Hundreds of millions of Pentecostal/charismatic believers cross denominational and geographic boundaries (largest and fastest growing group in Christendom).

'Pentecostal or charismatic', by experience, are synonymous. When used in reference to churches or denominations, the above distinctions are recognized. 'Pentecostal' is from the root of the day of Pentecost (Acts) and the giving of the Spirit to the church. 'Charismatic' is from the root of giftings/grace (I Cor.).

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Classical Pentecostals believe that tongues is the initial physical evidence of the infilling/baptism of the Holy Spirit (experience subsequent to salvation). They also tend to be pre-trib./pre-mill., etc. Charismatics believe in tongues, but do not agree with the above statement of faith (initial, physical evidence; eschatology).

Pentecostal denominations formed in the 1900s when believers in other churches who experienced the charismata

[refugepsa91]

Well guess thats a new one for me....didn't know charasmatic = Pentacostal.

the church in Newaygo calls themselves a charasmatic church, very upbeat. But they are saying they are non-denominational. Guess they didn't know that either Tell ya what I let you tell them :oww: I'm just kidden. thankx for the input and info though it was interesting. :il:

Love and Blessings,

[His son]

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As you well know Slain in the Spirit is not Bibical.

Plus Look at all the articles that are written not in his favor. There are so many, Warning Signs should be popping into the minds of someone.

For you information Paul the apostle was slain in The Spirit, Peter on the house top, and John when he had his visions. I have been slain in The Spirit which is nothing more than being so filled with His presence that you can't move for some time as He ministers to you.

One of the biggest criticizers of the faith movement was shown to be a bunch of phonies who made up a whole lot of their stuff. You should go to the source before you make such statements.

[Kay]

Now I do have a personal interest in this because my daughter Kellie is attending a Pentecostal church.

She has it in her head that she has to tith 10% of her income. If she does do this her children will have nothing to eat.

Do you think that my grandchildren should go without food!

Do you think that GOD would be pleased with this?

I know that some Pentecostal churchs

Edited July 15, 2004 by Kay

[godrulz]

Well guess thats a new one for me....didn't know charasmatic = Pentacostal.

the church in Newaygo calls themselves a charasmatic church, very upbeat. But they are saying they are non-denominational. Guess they didn't know that either Tell ya what I let you tell them :oww: I'm just kidden. thankx for the input and info though it was interesting. :il:

Love and Blessings,

Certainly many charismatics are independent local churches or non-denominational. Sometimes they think they are more spiritual by being non-denominational. It is usually a matter of time before these independent movements join together in fellowship and end up with colleges, headquarters, etc. i.e. become similar to a denomination.

[Guest ILive4Him]

a mother struggling to feed her children should not be giving food money to a wealthy church, that church should be feeding her children. period. my pastor returned my offering one sunday because he said, I needed it more than he did.

My pastor does not teach tithing, he does not take an offering, we just give it in to the office whenever we want. there is no high pressure teaching designed to manipulate people to give to the church. Our pastor does not believe in it. and he has taught us to listen to God and God alone on what to give and where.

tithing in the legalistic sense is OT. New testament teaching on giving is just that, give as you are able. and give willingly without any compulsion.

the reason this tithing teachign is so popular is that the pastors are afraid if they dont teach it, the people wont give and they wont be able to pay the bills. why is it the sheep have to trust God but the shepherds dont?

sorry this is off topic. to discuss tithing maybe one should start another thread.

[Kay]

Now I do have a personal interest in this because my daughter Kellie is attending a Pentecostal church.

She has it in her head that she has to tith 10% of her income. If she does do this her children will have nothing to eat.

Do you think that my grandchildren should go without food!

Do you think that GOD would be pleased with this?

I know that some Pentecostal churchs

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Now I do have a personal interest in this because my daughter Kellie is attending a Pentecostal church.

She has it in her head that she has to tith 10% of her income. If she does do this her children will have nothing to eat.

Do you think that my grandchildren should go without food!

Do you think that GOD would be pleased with this?

I know that some Pentecostal churchs

[refugepsa91]

Jedi,

thats the point this church uses the tithe for the WRONG reasons....the only reason people in give at this church is because it is pounded in their head that they will get it all back 100 fold...and I'm talking money and merchandise...if you have lots of stuff then your doing it right...if not then your not giving enough...do you see the danger here? That is what I believe Snow should be worried about...I have personal experience with this church...I praise the Lord He led me out...I will pray the Lord leads Snow's daughter out of there too.

Of course is right to give...you will never get an argument out of me over that...give give give and give some more...and you will reap what you sow...but thats not necessarily monetary or merchandise...it is Love, Peace, Comfort, and His smile on you, what could get better than that? :il:

Love and Blessings,

Angel