nebula Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Way of the Master (the ministry Kirk Cameron is a part of) has an interesting plan. Check out the explanation in his own words: http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=0...84c0c8b8654a1f8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2009 I love it! We should pray for this day . I'd even consider fasting for this day. I pray that this presentation is seen and heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2009 Great idea! I really like Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort, in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritman Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 127 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,131 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/22/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1962 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nice, I and mrs watch way of the master all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgedrw81 Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,823 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/10/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2009 I love it! We should pray for this day . I'd even consider fasting for this day. I pray that this presentation is seen and heard. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi4Yahweh Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,955 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 636 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/12/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2009 Nebula, I have been a fan of Ray Comfort for years. I really love his book, "Hells best kept secret" about evangalism; but I noticed that his books mainly focus on using logic and resoning to win people to Christ. You may say whats wrong with that? Well reasoning and logic only deals with the mind of the unbeleiver and not the their heart. I have no problem with people trying to reason with unbelievers, If done with good intentions, but you must understand no matter how well you present your argument or how well you lay out the facts before them, they will never come to Christ based only factual logical information and no matter how well you can explain it to them. Their hearts and minds are blinded by sin and demonic powers. It takes God breaking them down by fervent prayer, fasting and spirtual warfare. Once God has broken and peireced their heart you want need to debate about God or science with them, they will come to you seeking, "what must I do to be saved". God is not looking for lawyers or scientist with phd's who can persuade and debate the unbelievers. God is looking for simple people who will humble themselves and pray and seek his face and pray let your will be done. Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsylady Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2009 I agree that prayer is important, but Christians are to be wise - as wise as serpents. Wisdom is to be sought. We are to be ready to give an answer. The most logical truthful and reasonable answers are out there and available... but God doesn't want us to use them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Jedi - I understand what you are saying. But sometimes it helps to break down the mind before the heart can be broken down. I know I've heard testimonies of people who had to have their reasoning questioned before they considered seeking after the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Jedi - I understand what you are saying. But sometimes it helps to break down the mind before the heart can be broken down. I know I've heard testimonies of people who had to have their reasoning questioned before they considered seeking after the Lord. Exactly. I was one of those people who needed to be confronted with the reality that my worldly thinking didn't add up. I only started listening to what the believers around me were saying when I began to realize that evolution didn't answer all the questions I had. That's part of the logic & reason part in Way of the Master. For some people, you have to get past all the logic and reason before they can "get it" that they are a sinner. The Holy Spirit does the real work, but we have our part too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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