Question on the stars for YEC'S

[ollkiller]

Just a question to get a few different people's views if that's okay. I look up to the stars and see light from millions of years ago. If the earth is only 10,000 or so years old how do you explain said starlight.

And to follow on, if said starlight was created by god in an instant why would said god give us laws of physics (speed of light in a vacuum for example) and expect us to believe the earth is only 10,000 or so years old.

I am generally interested in opinions and am not looking to ruffle feathers, it's just a question i am interested in. Lastly, once again excuse my response time in posts. I am getting a replacement laptop sometime next week to replace the one i had stolen from me (Silly person who robbed my house took my girlfriends work phone and rang his friends on it, haha your day in court is coming) . Thanks in advance for any replies.

[Guest Vee Vee]

Just a question to get a few different people's views if that's okay. I look up to the stars and see light from millions of years ago. If the earth is only 10,000 or so years old how do you explain said starlight.

And to follow on, if said starlight was created by god in an instant why would said god give us laws of physics (speed of light in a vacuum for example) and expect us to believe the earth is only 10,000 or so years old.

I am generally interested in opinions and am not looking to ruffle feathers, it's just a question i am interested in. Lastly, once again excuse my response time in posts. I am getting a replacement laptop sometime next week to replace the one i had stolen from me (Silly person who robbed my house took my girlfriends work phone and rang his friends on it, haha your day in court is coming) . Thanks in advance for any replies.

Physics on the universe can be quite complicated, as you may well already know. The answers to many questions is not truly known, though many profess to have insight and understanding. There is an infamous quote by one of (and I cannot remember which one) of the reknowned scientists of history, which is very well put in his saying that 'the only theory that is safe in science, is that there is no theory that is safe in science'. For instance, at one time science determined that the universe was exploding, then imploding in on itself, then exploding outward again, so on and so forth. You know, like the old flat earth theory? Well, anyway, back to your original question, you might watch some of Jonathan Sarfati's or Kent Hovind's Seminars. They both give a pretty 'colorful' delivery on many of the questions people are commonly asking today, including the topic in question, and you can watch them on YouTube. You will definitely glean some inerrant Truths from these guys, as they will clearly spell things out in laymans terms for you.

The fact is that although many, many atheistic scientists, work around the clock continually trying to discredit the WORD of GOD in just even one area, such as the one you are inquiring about, they have failed to do so, but rather some actually become Christians, or atleast acknowledge a HIGHER AUTHORITY (GOD). One such leader in the atheistic community is Anthony Flew, who you may want to look up.

About the stars, the truth is, there is not really any one group or belief that has proven 100% under the scrutiny of science. One thing I do know about some anti-GOD scientists though, is that they continually move the goal posts after 'they' set the rules, in a feeble attempt at making the science line up with their evolutionary religious beliefs.

The Bible is hitting at 100% accuracy for what we do positively know in prophecy, archeology, historical facts, and so on.

Receive the Truth of the LORD Jesus of Nazareth, found in the divinely breathed WORD of the ALMIGHTY GOD, and receive peace over all spirits of lies and confusion. What science thinks it knows about the stars is not hard evidence that can in any way refute the Scriptures.

I uplift you today, by commendation for your Berean spirit!

[Fez]

I for one believe the earth is as old as the earth is. Does it really matter in the greater scheme of things? Jesus came 2000 years ago or so, and that is all that really matters. If we can only take our eyes off the stars (except to glorify Him), and forget about monkeys with added bits, and keep our eyes on Him, then I think we are walking the walk he wants us to!

Blessings

[humbleseeker]

The earth could have been around much longer then people millions of years longer. I do think that people have been created within the past 10,000 years but this planet and other creatures could have been here much longer. Remeber a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years as a day to God.

[Fez]

Just a question to get a few different people's views if that's okay. I look up to the stars and see light from millions of years ago. If the earth is only 10,000 or so years old how do you explain said starlight.

And to follow on, if said starlight was created by god in an instant why would said god give us laws of physics (speed of light in a vacuum for example) and expect us to believe the earth is only 10,000 or so years old.

I am generally interested in opinions and am not looking to ruffle feathers, it's just a question i am interested in. Lastly, once again excuse my response time in posts. I am getting a replacement laptop sometime next week to replace the one i had stolen from me (Silly person who robbed my house took my girlfriends work phone and rang his friends on it, haha your day in court is coming) . Thanks in advance for any replies.

How do you account for creation? Do you believe the big bang just happened, or do you hold to a theory?

Blessings

[Guest]

Wise Guys

Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour:

so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour.

Ecclesiastes 10:1

Sin

Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin:

but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

John 9:41

Wise Men

"Blessed are those who recognize they are spiritually helpless.

The kingdom of heaven belongs to them.

Matthew 5:3 (GWT)

Believe

Jesus said to her, "I am the one who brings people back to life, and I am life itself.

Those who believe in me will live even if they die.

John 11:25 (GWT)

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.... I look up to the stars and see light from millions of years ago. If the earth is only 10,000 or so years old how do you explain said starlight ....

Did You Forget To Set Your Clocks To Mark The Stretch Of The Heavens?

Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:

Psalms 104:2

And Do You Claim To Understand How God Created?

He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

Ecclesiastes 3:11

Do You Still Claim You Are The Judge?

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

Isaiah 29:16

Of The LORD's Amazing Grace

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

And Do You Turn And Walk

Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Hebrews 3:12

Away From Love

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:14-15

Because Your Little Clocks

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Mark 13:31-32

Are Ticking

Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

Mark 13:33

Evilly

Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Ephesians 5:14-16

[ollkiller]

How do you account for creation? Do you believe the big bang just happened, or do you hold to a theory?

Blessings

I think the big bang happened. Don't know how it happened. As for creation, i think you mean how did life start. I'm in the don't know brigade. Glad it did and still curious to how it did start.

[Godfearer]

Just a question to get a few different people's views if that's okay. I look up to the stars and see light from millions of years ago. If the earth is only 10,000 or so years old how do you explain said starlight.

And to follow on, if said starlight was created by god in an instant why would said god give us laws of physics (speed of light in a vacuum for example) and expect us to believe the earth is only 10,000 or so years old.

I am generally interested in opinions and am not looking to ruffle feathers, it's just a question i am interested in. Lastly, once again excuse my response time in posts. I am getting a replacement laptop sometime next week to replace the one i had stolen from me (Silly person who robbed my house took my girlfriends work phone and rang his friends on it, haha your day in court is coming) . Thanks in advance for any replies.

first of all you should check out genesis 1:2 and the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the DEEP. and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the WATERS.

in other words something was already there but with out form. and then he formed it. so how many years old is the earth? i cant find the bible saying how old the earth is.

secondly i havent read in the bible God giving man the law of physics. and even still speed of light in a vacuum dont have much to do with the age of the earth. or God expecting us to believe the age of the earth.

[leoxiii]

The answer is found in the theory "Starlight and Time" put forward by Dr. Russell Humphries, PhD Physics.

When the universe was one big massive ball, there was an incredible gravity well in the middle, where the earth is located. It is a proven scientific fact that time slows down inside the gravity well, and in this gravity well, time was incredibly slower than at the surface. As the matter forming stars expanded into space it experienced time ata much faster rate than the matter at the center of the massive ball of matter in which earth was still at the center, or proximate to center. As more matter expanded away from the center, the gravity well became less intense and time throughout the universe began to become more or less equalized.

His calculations show that --and this is very important -- according to the amount of matter we can detect in the universe, we should see stars on the outer fringe as being 10 - 20 billion years old, while in the center, where the earth is located, things should be somewhere around 6 - 10 thousand years old.

The naturalists invent all manner of mythical things in order to circumvent this conclusion. They invent things like hyperspace and dark matter -- things which they tell us are certainly there, but no earthly instrument can detect. Then you have the real wackos like Stephen Hawking who want to convince of something called imaginary time.

I, for one, do not fall for such lunacy, but for a naturalist no other avenue is available. They must either believe in pixie dust and little green men, or accept the existence of a Creator God who loves them and wants them to spend eternity with Him on heavenly glory.

[irishcowboy]

some questions will just have to wait.......

as far as the split second bit, I am not sure that is how it happened.... I am sure...... GOD SAID IT..... IT HAPPENED.......

A day of our live is as a thousand years, in Gods ( or maybe 7000 years, who knows for sure, this will be a question that only God can answer and that will probably have to wait a few more years, or thousands.......)

mike