nebula Posted November 20, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I think this is true also, MG. Hype is everywhere and on both sides - if we don't like someone or trust them -nothing they do will ever be right and they'll always be viewed in a poor light... that's just human nature. Well . . . I am asking for the alternative side. I am serious. Do you have none to give? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted November 20, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.07 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 20, 2009 I think this is true also, MG. Hype is everywhere and on both sides - if we don't like someone or trust them -nothing they do will ever be right and they'll always be viewed in a poor light... that's just human nature. Well . . . I am asking for the alternative side. I am serious. Do you have none to give? Are you addressing Believer or me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted November 20, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 20, 2009 I'll consider the President as American as long as he acts like one. Would you please offer some evidence? I'm being serious. A lot of the things he's credited (or bashed) with are all hype anyway. Sorry, but that doesn't help me. I need some substance to work with. Hi Nebula, You can't separate the man from his government, no matter how hard one tries. It's not possible because it's Obama's government. Who else picked Obama's radical unAmerican czars with zero public transparency? Just for starters, let's take a good close look at Obama's accomplishments that absolutely shows Obama's un-Americanism. This stuff is available anywhere on the internet for anyone who really cares to know ... it's not a matter of being unavailable. Much of it has already been brought to light at this forum so it's not like it's a secret. - Abandoning America's only true and long time trusted Middle East ally, Israel for muslim enemies and countries. Shocking as it was, months ago Obama gave nearly a billion dollars to the terrorist organization Hamas, who is good friends with Ahmadinejad, who regularly fire rockets into Israel to murder Israel's innocent civilians. - Abandoning America's Baltic allies in favor of appeasing the communist Russians. Poland missile shield sound familiar? - Alligning himself and sympathizing with facist dictators, Islamic regimes and tyrants around the world (Iran and Chevez) What about Iran and the countless innocent people murdered that Obama finally mentioned only after the brutal torture and protests were almost over? and Ahmadinejad just smiles and carries on. It's no secret that Hugo Chevez hates America . And let's not forget No. Korea where Kim Jong has been threatening for months to attack the United States military ships and even threatened to fire a missile on Hawaii. And Obama does nothing. - Apologizing to muslims tour --emboldening America's enemies. How American is that? - Instituting Socialism and even Marxism in America - Being anti-Capitalist - Being a first-class racist - Being anti-family with his abortion program for America, Obama has declared war against middle class taxpayers and their traditional Christian values beliefs, and priorities - Being anti-military - Refusing to address the urgent matter of needed American troops even when troops were requested in Afghanistan and even though it was Obama who stated this was a war of necessity - Destroying the American economy with communist government style take-over programs. - Destroying jobs BOGUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 21, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I think this is true also, MG. Hype is everywhere and on both sides - if we don't like someone or trust them -nothing they do will ever be right and they'll always be viewed in a poor light... that's just human nature. Well . . . I am asking for the alternative side. I am serious. Do you have none to give? Are you addressing Believer or me? Well - both . . . since both of you are arguing the same thing. Or I'll take whomever will anwer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 21, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 21, 2009 -HOSTILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted November 21, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2009 -HOSTILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted November 21, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.07 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2009 I think this is true also, MG. Hype is everywhere and on both sides - if we don't like someone or trust them -nothing they do will ever be right and they'll always be viewed in a poor light... that's just human nature. Well . . . I am asking for the alternative side. I am serious. Do you have none to give? Are you addressing Believer or me? Well - both . . . since both of you are arguing the same thing. Or I'll take whomever will anwer. I'm not sure what the alternative side would be. I just don't see things the same way as many do. There's no point in listening to every conspiracy theory and reading every extremist blog (not saying YOU do this, just talking generalities) because it will make you crazy. I listen to the news and then analyze it for myself. I don't see the President as the embodiment of evil that many do nor do I see him as some kind of 'Messiah' like many others do. I'm reserving judgment because a President has to be in office at least two years before his agenda is fully revealed. We always have to question the news, all of it, because it's no longer trustworthy and I firmly believe that no one in government is to be trusted or believed more than 50% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted November 21, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2009 -HOSTILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted November 21, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I believe he's an idealogue; yes, his heart is American Why do you believe his heart is American? Why would you want to judge a man's heart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 21, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'm not sure what the alternative side would be. I just don't see things the same way as many do. There's no point in listening to every conspiracy theory and reading every extremist blog (not saying YOU do this, just talking generalities) because it will make you crazy. I listen to the news and then analyze it for myself. I don't see the President as the embodiment of evil that many do nor do I see him as some kind of 'Messiah' like many others do. I'm reserving judgment because a President has to be in office at least two years before his agenda is fully revealed. We always have to question the news, all of it, because it's no longer trustworthy and I firmly believe that no one in government is to be trusted or believed more than 50% of the time. Well, when you read what Nikki recorded, are those things hype? Lies? What do they tell you about where Obama wants to lead this nation? Really, I would like to see evidence that paints this lovely picture of him you keep trying to get us to see . (Yes, I know I'm exaggerating with how I worded that, but I did so to hopefully get the point across????) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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