Questions for evolutionists

[Guest man]

Oh....the evolutionists. Well, they are that but they're not Christians if they believe that man evolved from apes or that ANY species came from another. That flies in the face of Scripture.

The bible tells us what beliefs are mandatory to be saved. A literal 6 day creation is not one of them.

Who are we to tell someone they aren't saved???

I wasn't aware that the 6 days of creation was being discussed here. I don't believe salvation was being discussed either.

I need glasses.

Did that work?

The Word states that we were created by God. Nowhere in the Word does it mention man evolving from apes.

Or am I wrong about that too?

[Guest man]

Oh....the evolutionists. Well, they are that but they're not Christians if they believe that man evolved from apes or that ANY species came from another. That flies in the face of Scripture.

The bible tells us what beliefs are mandatory to be saved. A literal 6 day creation is not one of them.

Who are we to tell someone they aren't saved???

I wasn't aware that the 6 days of creation was being discussed here. I don't believe salvation was being discussed either.

I need glasses.

Did that work?

And could you point out the 6 day creation thing..........please.

Use the really big letters......I don't want to miss it.

[~candice~]

Oh....the evolutionists. Well, they are that but they're not Christians if they believe that man evolved from apes or that ANY species came from another. That flies in the face of Scripture.

The bible tells us what beliefs are mandatory to be saved. A literal 6 day creation is not one of them.

Who are we to tell someone they aren't saved???

I wasn't aware that the 6 days of creation was being discussed here. I don't believe salvation was being discussed either.

I need glasses.

Did that work?

The Word states that we were created by God. Nowhere in the Word does it mention man evolving from apes.

Or am I wrong about that too?

No, you aren't wrong about that. God created man as a special creation.

My point is that we don't need to believe that in order to be 'Christian' (read... saved). The bible alone declares what we need to believe and do in order to be Christian, we don't have the right to add to that and claim that anyone who believes in error regarding creation is not Christian.

[~candice~]

Oh....the evolutionists. Well, they are that but they're not Christians if they believe that man evolved from apes or that ANY species came from another. That flies in the face of Scripture.

The bible tells us what beliefs are mandatory to be saved. A literal 6 day creation is not one of them.

Who are we to tell someone they aren't saved???

I wasn't aware that the 6 days of creation was being discussed here. I don't believe salvation was being discussed either.

I need glasses.

Did that work?

And could you point out the 6 day creation thing..........please.

Use the really big letters......I don't want to miss it.

I brought 6 day creation up as an example of a belief that is not mandatory to be saved. Want that in 7 point font too? I'm only happy to oblige .

[Guest man]

I brought 6 day creation up as an example of a belief that is not mandatory to be saved. Want that in 7 point font too? I'm only happy to oblige .

The days of creation are at the very beginning of the bible. Rejecting that is rejecting the Word. You can't go through the bible and pick out bits and pieces and say "I'll believe this but I won't believe that". It doesn't work like that. You believe it all or you believe none of it.

[~candice~]

I brought 6 day creation up as an example of a belief that is not mandatory to be saved. Want that in 7 point font too? I'm only happy to oblige .

The days of creation are at the very beginning of the bible. Rejecting that is rejecting the Word. You can't go through the bible and pick out bits and pieces and say "I'll believe this but I won't believe that". It doesn't work like that. You believe it all or you believe none of it.

But the thing is, they mistakenly believe that the bible teaches that. It is an error in interpretation. Can you honestly say that you perfectly understand every portion of scripture and what God intended it to mean? I don't think ANYONE can do that. Errors in interpretation don't render someone 'unchristian'.

This issue of evolution is not a salvation matter regardless of who claims it is. I would even go as far as to state that inerrancy and infalliability is not a salvation matter either. Even if someone didn't believe a passage of scripture... show me where it says that they are not Christian? Honestly... where does the bible say that a person must believe every single word therein to be saved?

The WORD alone has the right to say what we must believe to be saved. And it doesn't say that we must believe in in a special creation of man. It doesn't say that we must believe every word. The essential points are all surrounding belief in Jesus Christ.

Now the regenerate Christian is going to struggle with a mish-mash approach which accepts some passages and not others. They will struggle to make a cohesive understanding of the bible and of God. Those who reject the infalliability and inerrancy of scripture are likewise going to struggle. But not necessarily to the point where they are not Christian.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that

whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Joh 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him.

[Guest man]

Errors in interpretation don't render someone 'unchristian'.

We're getting off topic here. If you want to discuss this, start another thread.

But I will say, just because someone labels themself a christian, doesn't mean they are.

[~candice~]

Errors in interpretation don't render someone 'unchristian'.

We're getting off topic here. If you want to discuss this, start another thread.

But I will say, just because someone labels themself a christian, doesn't mean they are.

And just because someone labels them non-Christian, doesn't mean they are.

Let's go with what the bible says and not what man would like to dream up . That goes for both evolution AND salvation.

[~candice~]

the thing is, either you believe in Scripture or you don't. one cannot pick and choose. can one believe in some of Scripture and not all and still be saved? yes. i believe they can. their walk, however, may suffer. and "the walk" is sometimes much harder than the decision. at any rate, the decision is the main thing. and it's something only one can make by themselves. do you choose Christ? or do you choose the world? no one can make the decision for you.

I have not got it all right in my Christian walk. There are times when I have flirted with the wrong interpretation of Genesis particularly.

It did make my walk so much more difficult.

But I still believed in Christ and was therefore a saved Christian and a child of God.

[Guest man]

Let's go with what the bible says and not what man would like to dream up . That goes for both evolution AND salvation.

The topic is evolution. Evolution is a lie. Would we considered good stewards of the Word if we were to look away and let those who believed in a lie to continue walking in darkness?