Who was Jesus?

[BlindSeeker]

All right let me explain a few things about myself, the first of which is that I don't learn the same way most people do, never have probably never will. I don't learn through books, that's not to say I can't just saying it's very difficult for me. I learn through what I see, and what I hear. So picking up the bible and reading it is a very difficult task for me because there many things that are said in the bible that I don't understand and I sort of have to depend on others to help me figure out what it saying. While other things in the bible are straight forward and easy to understand.

An example of what I am talking about would be the parables Christ used, most of them I have come to understand through talking to people who could explain them to me. However there a lot of things Christ said that I don't understand, and thus I'm not understanding what he is telling me. It sort of like some one come up to you and giving you instructions on how to save your life in a language you barely know, you get a few words here and there but in the long run your not getting all the info you need.

Now in the case in "Who is Jesus" (and yes that is what I should named the topic it was a typo that I didn't realize till later) this is difficult concept to figure out. Understand who is Jesus is the source of my problems or was (will come back to the resolution in a minute) because this is my soul that is at stake here, I can't afford to get it wrong. I don't want to get caught up believing in something that maybe false, and now days it is very easy to believe something that isn't true. Case in point is who exactly is Jesus, I mean is he the Son of God or was he God made flesh. The both can't be true, only one can be true. So I begin this quest to resolve this matter, search the bible. Listen to others was not enough because there are different opinions on the subject, so it comes down to who do I listen to. I choose to Listen to Christ and not human beings.

As I read John I found a passage were Christ return the sight of a blind man and yet Christ never told him who he was. This blind man later stood before the religious leaders and defended Christ even though he had no idea who or what did this to him. He only know that who ever healed him must have been given the ability from God. Christ later told the blind man who he was. The man later went back and told the religious leaders who had healed him.

Now Christ also states that he and the Father are one, many times. He says that no one knows the Father like the son and that no one knows the son like the father. He states that he came to do his father work. Which in essence means that Christ and God are one.

So here is the temp solution I have found, I don't need to know if Christ is God or the Son of God. I just need to know that he and God are one, that if I follow him and obey him and trust in him that I am also obeying and following God and putting my trust in him. The blind man had no idea who healed him or what manor of man healed him, only that if he could do such a thing that he must have been given authority to do such a thing by God and he said as much to the religious leaders. So I don't need to know if Chris is God or the Son of God to know that through him all things are possible. I also know from Christ own Words that he and the Father are one and that by obey and following Christ and putting my faith in him I also put my faith in God.

So the solution is that I will just put my faith and trust in Christ because he is one with God and that by Obeying him and believing in him I also believe and trust God. That for now is all I need to know, as I grow in my relationship with the Lord and he changes me and teaches me I will eventually learn the truth one way or another, not when I want to but when Christ is willing to tell me.

I love Christ he has been with me my entire life even when I hated him, even when I spat in his face. He showed me mercy and love even if I didn't see it. He didn't get angry and smite me like he could have, he didn't seek revenge, Christ showed me mercy, patience and worked in my life even when I didn't see it, till I finally came to a point in my life were I have accepted him and desire to learn about him and want to have a relationship with him. I love him for that kindness and mercy but most importantly for his patience and his willingness to forgive me of my sins.

That is all I can say on this subject at this time, I still have a lot to learn but more importantly a lot of changing and growing to do in the lord.

Well said Mike.

I would only add this in regards to your dilemma with "if Christ is God or the Son of God?" It is not a matter of either or. Just like Jesus being the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God. Both are true.

I will simple post an excerpt from the thread of mine you posted -

Jesus was, and is, called the "son of God." However, the word "son" was not intended to infer He would be God's descendant, or offspring, such as we have offsprings. The word was merely prophetic of THE CHILD's gender which God promised would be born. From the beginning, when Adam fell into sin in the garden, God promised that a deliverer would come. A "seed" that would bruise the head of the serpent (the devil), and the serpent would "bruise HIS heel" (Genesis 3.15). A "man child" would be born.

Jesus Christ is that "seed" and "man child." A "son" that could only have been OF God, for as it was foretold, the child would be born of a virgin. While this child's conception was accomplished entirely OF God, men would still call him "son of man," (although no earthly man took part in His conception).

The phrase "Son of man" is merely a Jewish maxim which testifies of one's humanity, as it is used by God toward Ezekiel so many times. In Christ's case, it too testified of His humanity - that He in fact was "born" a man.

"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same . . . for verily He took not on Him the nature of angels: but He took on Him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore it behoved Him to be made like unto His brethren" (Hebrews 2:14-17).

Just as Isaiah foretold, "a virgin" had conceived and brought forth a "son." They would call this child, as both Isaiah prophesied and the angel Gabriel foretold, "Immanuel . . . which being interpreted is, God-with-us" (Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:18-23, Luke 1:26-35).

Consider a few more scriptures;

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, (1)The Mighty God, (2)The Everlasting Father, (3)The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).

"Ye are My witnesses," saith the Lord, "and My servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He [the child to come]. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord; and besides Me there is no saviour. I am the Lord, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King" (Isaiah 43:10,11,15).

Peace Brother Mike.