Pre-Trib Rapture... Here Are Big Time Evidence

[senerhu]

I think pre-trib rapture is a theory that has to be taught to someone; you just don't come across it in the Bible or in traditional church teaching.

and the difference between that and the mid and post-trib rapture THEORY is???...

[irishcowboy]

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Boy this pre-trib drivel, really takes the cake. I am happy to see some scripturally well rounded folk show up in defense of the reality of the upcoming tribulation which we shall ALL face.

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you are right, this pre trip drivel is denied by many, cause they do not want to follow Christ now, they wish to follow the World and then hope at the last minute that they can switch sides......

sad to say there are many that will fall short...... way too many....

if a person is not ready, they will be left out in the dark..... if a person is expecting to see some signs take place just prior to the rapture, they will be left in the dark...

let me put it another way.......

what makes you think that if you are not ready for the rapture prior to the Tribulation that you will be ready after the tribulation, or as some say half way thru the tribulation?????

do you honestly think that people that have turned their backs on God will be able to come forth and accept the Lord???? this will be much harder task to do then you might think......

did you know that Israel has their "Red Bull" one with out blemish.... and also a jar of "annointing oil" that are ready to go for their sacrafices to begin again????

yea, they had lost the "recipe" for their Annointing oil... and guess what, they found a jar of it it, sealed for a long time past......

now that they have it also, things can really start moving.....

the Time line for the "end times " is writen down in the Bible, some is in old test, and some in the new...... the time line specifically speaks of pre-trib....

let me ask you this.....

if you honestly feel that it is a post trib rapture, and you are wrong, where are all those souls going if they choose to follow the post trib theory????? when the Rapture takes place prior to the Trib?????

oooooops......

people are wanting signs......

we have plenty of signs....

more signs then we know what to do with.....

all these signs are pointing to the last days.... yet we ( all the people ) are ignoring them...... flat out ignoring them..... we are too caught up in our own lives then we are in the Lord Jesus.... we ( even many many many that profess Christianity ) are going about our own business, not even standing against baal worship, or many other things that is an abomination before the Lord.....

we keep telling every one that they have time.... that they will have 7 years to make a choice when the Tribulation starts.......

a man almost lost his son this past friday, that man is devistated, knowing that his son was walking with the Lord and then chose to do things of this world and now is not sure whether or not he even wants to serve the Lord......

if I tell him that his son will wake up and smell the coffee when the Tribulation starts.... and not to worry about his son coming back before the trib starts, then I am a fool......

anyone that wants to follow the "we have plenty of time" attitude is a fool....

the time is at hand... we have very little time to complete this harvest..... it is ripe on the vine..... if we wait it will rott.....

Jesus compared the world at the time of His coming to the world of the days of Noah.... even with all the warnings, and such, and building the ark, with the animals coming ..... the people still went their own ways..... they continued to do things as they always did... and were unprepared..... they did not really believe God would poor out His Judgement on the earth.... and then the day of the rains came.... oooooops, sorry, the door was already closed...... Noah and his family and the animals were raptured up ( gathered up )..... and were saved from the wrath of God.....

our need to be ready now and all this can be seen thru out the Bible..... here are a few verses that you can see this in.... Acts 3:19, Matt 24:37-50, Luke 12:35-40, Matt 25:13, luke 21:34-36

we are also told that there will be no warning..... that people will be going about their everyday life and then people will be gone.... just gone from this world....

Christ will come back, as teh Preserver, Deliverer, or Rescuer from the coming wrath. ( 1st Thes 1:10 ) and if we are covered under the Blood, made righous thru the Blood and are not partakers of witchcraft, sexual immoralities, thieves murdering liars and such ..... remaining spiritually awake, living sober, well balanced self-controlled lives, and wearing the Armor of faith, love and hope of salvation, we will be free from the wrath of God in the Trib.... ( Rom 5:9, 1st thes 5:9-11, 1st thes 4:16-18, 1st cor 15:52-54, phil 3:21

personally.......

if you wish to ignore the proof thru-out the Bible that the rapture is real, and that the tribulation is real, that those that are in Christ will be spared from the wrath of God, then that is your business..... there is so much more about this entire subject that if I was to type it all on here, the thread would be several times longer then it already is, and that would be with out any replys from anyone else.....

if a person is waiting for the trib to start as a sign of the end times, then i feel for them, for i really feel that they will be left here ......

the best thing we could do is live today as if it were the last day before the rapture, for if you dont, you may be wishing you had.... and then it will be too late...

there are some that believe that if a person misses the rapture, and actually had the chance personally to accept or deny Christ, and did not accept Him, they will not have another chance during the Trib, cause they will have their hearts so hardened that they will actually be fighting against the Spirit of God.....

some say that is a bunch of bologna, whether it is true or not, it should not matter, for we should not have to worry about it..... for me, I do not worry about it, when it is, or when it will take place, for I know my stand....... it is for others that I am concerned...... for if you are not living a blameless live before the Lord, you will not make the flight....... your boarding pass will become void, not valid, null, useless..... unless you have a valid boarding pass, you will not fly out of here during the Rapture.......

if you want more information then you may wish to find some good time to sit and read, and make a time line......

I have yet seen anyone come up with a valid time line for a post trib rapture theory.......

every time line i have seen that has been in print, has been a pre trib rapture, and is straight from the Bible..... there is no twisting of it...... it is in black and white and red and white......

v.r.

mike

[senerhu]

Boy this pre-trib drivel, really takes the cake. I am happy to see some scripturally well rounded folk show up in defense of the reality of the upcoming tribulation which we shall ALL face.

speaking of drivel...

[senerhu]

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Boy this pre-trib drivel, really takes the cake. I am happy to see some scripturally well rounded folk show up in defense of the reality of the upcoming tribulation which we shall ALL face.

"""""""""""""

you are right, this pre trip drivel is denied by many, cause they do not want to follow Christ now, they wish to follow the World and then hope at the last minute that they can switch sides......

sad to say there are many that will fall short...... way too many....

if a person is not ready, they will be left out in the dark..... if a person is expecting to see some signs take place just prior to the rapture, they will be left in the dark...

let me put it another way.......

what makes you think that if you are not ready for the rapture prior to the Tribulation that you will be ready after the tribulation, or as some say half way thru the tribulation?????

do you honestly think that people that have turned their backs on God will be able to come forth and accept the Lord???? this will be much harder task to do then you might think......

did you know that Israel has their "Red Bull" one with out blemish.... and also a jar of "annointing oil" that are ready to go for their sacrafices to begin again????

yea, they had lost the "recipe" for their Annointing oil... and guess what, they found a jar of it it, sealed for a long time past......

now that they have it also, things can really start moving.....

the Time line for the "end times " is writen down in the Bible, some is in old test, and some in the new...... the time line specifically speaks of pre-trib....

let me ask you this.....

if you honestly feel that it is a post trib rapture, and you are wrong, where are all those souls going if they choose to follow the post trib theory????? when the Rapture takes place prior to the Trib?????

oooooops......

people are wanting signs......

we have plenty of signs....

more signs then we know what to do with.....

all these signs are pointing to the last days.... yet we ( all the people ) are ignoring them...... flat out ignoring them..... we are too caught up in our own lives then we are in the Lord Jesus.... we ( even many many many that profess Christianity ) are going about our own business, not even standing against baal worship, or many other things that is an abomination before the Lord.....

we keep telling every one that they have time.... that they will have 7 years to make a choice when the Tribulation starts.......

a man almost lost his son this past friday, that man is devistated, knowing that his son was walking with the Lord and then chose to do things of this world and now is not sure whether or not he even wants to serve the Lord......

if I tell him that his son will wake up and smell the coffee when the Tribulation starts.... and not to worry about his son coming back before the trib starts, then I am a fool......

anyone that wants to follow the "we have plenty of time" attitude is a fool....

the time is at hand... we have very little time to complete this harvest..... it is ripe on the vine..... if we wait it will rott.....

Jesus compared the world at the time of His coming to the world of the days of Noah.... even with all the warnings, and such, and building the ark, with the animals coming ..... the people still went their own ways..... they continued to do things as they always did... and were unprepared..... they did not really believe God would poor out His Judgement on the earth.... and then the day of the rains came.... oooooops, sorry, the door was already closed...... Noah and his family and the animals were raptured up ( gathered up )..... and were saved from the wrath of God.....

our need to be ready now and all this can be seen thru out the Bible..... here are a few verses that you can see this in.... Acts 3:19, Matt 24:37-50, Luke 12:35-40, Matt 25:13, luke 21:34-36

we are also told that there will be no warning..... that people will be going about their everyday life and then people will be gone.... just gone from this world....

Christ will come back, as teh Preserver, Deliverer, or Rescuer from the coming wrath. ( 1st Thes 1:10 ) and if we are covered under the Blood, made righous thru the Blood and are not partakers of witchcraft, sexual immoralities, thieves murdering liars and such ..... remaining spiritually awake, living sober, well balanced self-controlled lives, and wearing the Armor of faith, love and hope of salvation, we will be free from the wrath of God in the Trib.... ( Rom 5:9, 1st thes 5:9-11, 1st thes 4:16-18, 1st cor 15:52-54, phil 3:21

personally.......

if you wish to ignore the proof thru-out the Bible that the rapture is real, and that the tribulation is real, that those that are in Christ will be spared from the wrath of God, then that is your business..... there is so much more about this entire subject that if I was to type it all on here, the thread would be several times longer then it already is, and that would be with out any replys from anyone else.....

if a person is waiting for the trib to start as a sign of the end times, then i feel for them, for i really feel that they will be left here ......

the best thing we could do is live today as if it were the last day before the rapture, for if you dont, you may be wishing you had.... and then it will be too late...

there are some that believe that if a person misses the rapture, and actually had the chance personally to accept or deny Christ, and did not accept Him, they will not have another chance during the Trib, cause they will have their hearts so hardened that they will actually be fighting against the Spirit of God.....

some say that is a bunch of bologna, whether it is true or not, it should not matter, for we should not have to worry about it..... for me, I do not worry about it, when it is, or when it will take place, for I know my stand....... it is for others that I am concerned...... for if you are not living a blameless live before the Lord, you will not make the flight....... your boarding pass will become void, not valid, null, useless..... unless you have a valid boarding pass, you will not fly out of here during the Rapture.......

if you want more information then you may wish to find some good time to sit and read, and make a time line......

I have yet seen anyone come up with a valid time line for a post trib rapture theory.......

every time line i have seen that has been in print, has been a pre trib rapture, and is straight from the Bible..... there is no twisting of it...... it is in black and white and red and white......

v.r.

mike

Good post...

[Guest LCPGUY]

Mike!!!

John Buoy

[Guest charlie]

and the difference between that and the mid and post-trib rapture THEORY is???... 

The difference imo is that you have to weave a tangled web in order to come up with a pre or mid; post trib is more straightforeward. A person who has never has any religious training can pick up a Bible and read the following senerio:

1Cr 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1Cr 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

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Jesus came once already, the Bible indicates He will come again with the clear implication being only one more time and every eye will see Him then. That future time is not called the "third coming", or the "secret coming", it's called the "Second Coming" for a reason and it's gonna be out in the open for the entire world to see with their own eyes. When "it" happens at the LAST TRUMP those believers who persever to the end, will be "changed" to spirit [i suppose] and "caught up" (raptured).

[senerhu]

and the difference between that and the mid and post-trib rapture THEORY is???...

[apothanein kerdos]

Please Read it will not take long, i have always read the post tribers thing please take time to read mine! lol

Proof #1: Revelation 19:11-21 doesn't mention a resurrection.

The rapture is a resurrection of those "in Christ" (1 Thess. 4:13-18). Isn't it a little bit odd that in Rev. 19:11-21, which is the clearest picture of the second coming of Christ, there is no mention of a resurrection? The rapture will be the biggest event since the resurrection of Jesus where hundreds of millions of Christians will be resurrected and translated, yet there isn't any mention here. Don't you think it deserves at least one verse? The rapture isn't mentioned because it doesn't happen at the second coming.

Proof #2: Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn't mention a resurrection.

This is an Old Testament picture of Jesus returning to earth at the second coming. Again, no mention of a resurrection.

Proof #3: Two different pictures are painted.

In the Old Testament, there were two different pictures painted of the Messiah

[senerhu]

*Gets the wood ready*

do Christians play with matches?

[Guest charlie]

*Gets the wood ready*

SJ you little devil!!

LOL, just kidding around folks, thinking of what you said yesterday SJ.