Pre-Trib Rapture... Here Are Big Time Evidence

[apothanein kerdos]

*Gets the wood ready*

SJ you little devil!!

LOL, just kidding around folks, thinking of what you said yesterday SJ.

*Puts gasoline around the fire*

You're lucky you're a Post-Tribber Charlie, otherwise you'd be in this fire too.

[senerhu]

those kind of thoughts and words and you'll have all the fire you can handle...

[Guest charlie]

those kind of thoughts and words and you'll have all the fire you can handle...

huh?

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Moved to Eschatology it is more appropriate here.

Peace,

Dave

[Trinity]

the 7 year period will start at the Reveling of the Antichrist then the rapture after 2556 days and a half. Ill pin point the Rapture for you the Day and the Time yes I did say the Time in which the Rapture will occur!!!

It will happen 2556.5 days that is at Noon 12 O'clock. So you will know when the rapture will happen. 2556 day + 12 noon = Rapture of the Church.

See I know the time and the Hour...

WAIT... UP!!!!!! hold on doesn't the bible say we will not know when the rapture will be? Then how come I just pin pointed the time Jesus was coming? Either Jesus was lying or the 7 year period is wrong, take you pick because the bible says in Matthew 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Hey if I could pin point the Rapture then the Post-trib was proven false.

Matthew 24:36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[1] but only the Father.

This verse backs me up. Because I cannot know the DAY! or the HOUR! Like I did for the Post-Trib because I pin pointed the Rapture for the Post-tribbers, but with the Pre-trib you cannot know the Day or the hour, Proving the Pre-trib to be true.

[Dad Ernie]

You still don't know what you are talking about Trinity.

You quoted:

Matthew 24:36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[1] but only the Father.

This is very specific, WE SHALL NOT KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR.

But quite the contrary to apply that to the "SEASON":

Matthew 24:32-33 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

YOU MAY BE IN DARKNESS, but the post-tribbers certainly aren't.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Trinity]

Yes, but we still know how many days till Jesus comes to fight in Armageddon, and is when you believe the rapture will take place as well. And the days till Jesus come is 2556.5 days. therefor we know the day and if we know the day then the rapture cannot be that because the bible say no 1 knows the day.

Edited August 16, 2004 by Trinity

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Trinity,

Yes, but we still know how many days till Jesus comes to fight in Armageddon, and is when you believe the rapture will take place as well. And the days till Jesus come is 2556.5 days. therefor we know the day and if we know the day then the rapture cannot be that because the bible say no 1 knows the day.

NOPE! This man of sin, is the False Prophet in Revelation. He will have been "on the scene" for no one knows just how long, but we can believe that we will recognize him by his miracles and his cuddling up to Mystery Babylon. I believe that in Daniel, we are told that he will arise within a small group SECRETLY and will be pushed into the limelight, so NO ONE KNOWS if that will take a day or a year. So your point is absolutely moot.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Trinity]

Yea you will know when the End is!

Daniel 9

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

'Seven' means "A Week Of Years"

this is how we know that it is a Seven year Period.

A week of years = 7 Years

In the middle of those week of years, the Antichrist will stop the

sacrificing and offering and Set himself as God. that is 3.5 years,

Another 3.5 years is 7 years all together.

The Bible spells it out in years, months & days exactly how long this period of Great Tribulation will be...3-1/2 years, or 42 months, or 1260 days (Rev. 12:6,14).

Revelation 12

6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days. 14The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach.

Time, times and half a time means time (1 year), times (2 years) and half a time (1/2 year) or 3 1/2 years.

So now that I proved that the Post trib rapture will be known to the day! It will be 2520 days from the antichrists revealing the Post trib rapture will be. Now ill answer you.

NOPE! This man of sin, is the False Prophet in Revelation. He will have been "on the scene" for no one knows just how long, but we can believe that we will recognize him by his miracles and his cuddling up to Mystery Babylon. I believe that in Daniel, we are told that he will arise within a small group SECRETLY and will be pushed into the limelight, so NO ONE KNOWS if that will take a day or a year. So your point is absolutely moot.

Some one would have to know when he did come on the scene there are thousands apone thousands apone thousands apone thousands apone thousands apone thousands apone thousands apone thousands apone thousands apones of christians in this world, and even the non believes who will become believers, 1 Must know out of all people.

Matthew 24:36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. the angels who rome(sp) the whole earth would know when he came on the Scene. I mean some one would have to know.

But with the Pre-trib rapture there is no way anyoe can know.

Edited August 16, 2004 by Trinity

[Dad Ernie]

Again, Sorry Trinity, You misinterpret AGAIN.

Daniel 9:27 says something entirely different. You have bought into the pre-trib nonsense and you can't see it any differently.

The "he" in Dan 9:27 refers to the antecedent Messiah in vs. 26. Go figure that one out.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie