Pre-Trib Rapture... Here Are Big Time Evidence

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings RollinThunder,

God is not bound by what we believe.

No, but He is bounded by His Word. That's why scripture interprets scripture, as I have provided in abundance, and that's why the pre-trib doctrine CANNOT find any support in the scriptures.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[irishcowboy]

sorry daddy ernie, I have never found anything that supports mid or post trib rapture, nothing what so ever... what you have given dont prove it...

I have read the scriptures old and new...... and everything I have read for the last 35 years, points to pre trib.....

and that is not reading anything into it, that is not making stuff up.....

you can call me a heretic all you wish, that dont make it so.....

v.r. mike

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Irish,

If you are so adamant that you are correct, then how about responding to my posts on Daniel 9 and the AoD? But be prepared to use properly exegeted scriptures, otherwise it will make you look foolish.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest Strservant]

Greetings Super Jew,

I would appreciate you reserving the term "Daddy" to our Father God.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

I would appreciate you reserving the term "heretic" for real ones, not someone who interprets scripture different than you do.

Thank you for saying this. Dad Ernie, no one can be 100% certain of the timing of the rapture. Therefore anyone (a pre-trib calling a post-trib or the other way around) calling someone a heretic based on this issue is out of bounds. You have a right to your opinion on this and I respect that right. Others have the right to believe as they do also. Being passionate about one's beliefs is commendable but not when it leads to an arrogance that says there can be no other belief but mine. The word heretic is used to describe someone who is teaching false doctrine. Since there is no one who knows the timing of the rapture save the Father Himself then how can you determine someone is teaching falsely on this doctrine? As I said before, I believe in pre-trib but I don't condemn those who believe post-trib simply because I could be wrong. I will discuss the matter with them for hours telling them why I feel the way I do and listening to them and their views but to call someone a heretic on this issue is irresponsible and out of line.

Respectfully,

Strservant

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Strservant,

If you or anyone feels I am erroneously labeling the pre-trib doctrine - heresy, and you don't think it appropriate that I speak in such Biblical terms, then please notify George or one of the moderators who will in turn upbraide me. But if I am speaking the truth (IN LOVE) and desperate for you to see the TRUTH, then I don't believe you will have a leg to stand on.

Thanks and God Bless,

Dad Ernie

[Trinity]

Dude and you haven't answered my question dad...

Who will populate the earth when we are reining in the air with Christ?

[Guest Strservant]

Greetings Strservant,

If you or anyone feels I am erroneously labeling the pre-trib doctrine - heresy, and you don't think it appropriate that I speak in such Biblical terms, then please notify George or one of the moderators who will in turn upbraide me. But if I am speaking the truth (IN LOVE) and desperate for you to see the TRUTH, then I don't believe you will have a leg to stand on.

Thanks and God Bless,

Dad Ernie

Dad Ernie,

It is one thing to say that you do not believe that pre-trib beliefs are Scriptural in your opinion, however, you were not just calling the theory heretical you called trinity heretical. This is the only thing I am calling into question. I would be just as upset if someone called you a heretic for beliving in post-trib even though I don't believe in it. Calamity started an apology thread on the general discussion board and many people have apologized for words said in the heat of passionate beliefs. I have no doubt that you are very passionate about your belief in post-trib but that does not mean you can call everyone who believes differently from you a heretic. That is a dangerous precedent to set.

Respectfully,

Strservant

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings trinity,

Dude and you haven't answered my question dad...

Who will populate the earth when we are reining in the air with Christ?

Please rephrase, I haven't the slightest notion what you are talking about.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Strservant,

It is one thing to say that you do not believe that pre-trib beliefs are Scriptural in your opinion, however, you were not just calling the theory heretical you called trinity heretical. This is the only thing I am calling into question. I would be just as upset if someone called you a heretic for beliving in post-trib even though I don't believe in it. Calamity started an apology thread on the general discussion board and many people have apologized for words said in the heat of passionate beliefs. I have no doubt that you are very passionate about your belief in post-trib but that does not mean you can call everyone who believes differently from you a heretic. That is a dangerous precedent to set.

Have you noticed that Trinity started off making wild assertions, none of which were factual, none of which supported IN TRUTH the notion that the pre-trib rapture view is what is taught in the scriptures.

At first I was careful in how to deal with this, but regardless of my tepid responses to Trinity, He refused to respond scripture for scripture. He refuses to examine the correct grammatical English. All he can do is huff and puff and his bellow wouldn't blow down a straw house. This to me, at least, is typical of all pre-tribbers. But most often they do not go around stating HERE IS PROOF! So until he gets off the milk and starts eating real meat, I will continue to accuse him of preaching a false, heritical doctrine.

As I said, if you do not think this appropriate, then perhaps some "punishment" is in order and I would suggest that you speak to one of the moderators or George.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Trinity]

No, My so called "Wild assertions" are to supported IN TRUTH. Your just so stuck up in your own mind to realized I gave Bible verses in which you probably didn't even look up.

Oh yes i did scripture for Scripture, don't lie.

Alright im not going to call your doctrine what you called mine. And the only person i see huffing and puffing is you, because i never once yelled at you.