Circumcision

[Guest shiloh357]

That's what we see. God only sees Christians.

No one condemns any Christians of other ethnicities for having distinct ethnic traditions as valid expressions of faith in Christ. Unless its Jews we're talking about. Plug the Jews into the conversation, and the rules change and Jews have to discard all vestiges of their customs and traditions and adopt purely Gentile patterns. It is a gross double-standard.

If God does not recognizw all these things then why do we seek to?

God does not recognize them as limitations or advantages to accessing grace. That does not mean that God circumvents various cultures and expects everyone to be follow a uniform set of customs.

If God treats all the same and the Gentiles don't need circumcision for salvation then why would the Jews?

God treats Jews and Gentiles equally, but not the same. The Jewish people have an eternal covenant with God and circumcision is a sign of that covenant. I realize that Gentile pride gets offended when someone points out the fact that God still has an active covenant with the Jews (Gen. 17:8-9) but it is a fact.

Does God save one in one manner and another differently?

No, but circumcision has nothing to do with salvation.

Then why force your congregation to perform a worship ritual that God doesn't care for?

Number 1, who is forcing anyone to be circumcized??? and Number 2, where does God say that He does not care for it???? It is people like YOU that condemn circumcision and project YOUR hatred of circumcision on to God.

They do it because they believe it is necessary to please God.

Jews do it because God said to and because it is a sign of the covenant.

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If God treats all the same and the Gentiles don't need circumcision for salvation then why would the Jews?

Why do you believe anyone has ever claimed circumcision was ever about salvation?

I'm not.

Shiloh is not.