nebula Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Really, I was thinking about this for some reason. I saw a dead limb from a tree that was knocked off in a recent thunderstorm. I contemplated that the limb could have been saved had the owners of the tree had the strength and ability (it was a sizable limb) to hoist the limb back up and bind it to the base soon after it was broken off. But once it died, that was it. It couldn't be brought back to life. It's the same with cut plants and Christmas trees. We can sustain them for a time with water and some food (sugar, etc.). But once the leaves are brown, there is no change of re-invigorating them. So then I wondered, what is "life" for a plant? What makes a plant alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm thinking that your question goes beyond a physical explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm thinking that your question goes beyond a physical explanation. OK, so how would you describe it? With humans, we can point to our spirits. But what about plants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted August 21, 2010 A portion of my answer will lay with the physical...please bear with me. I believe that physical life begins and ends at the cellular level, healthy bricks means a healthy building. Individual cells are programed to perform a specific function and all the programing began in Genesis. God has endless authority, once He speaks something into happening, it keeps happening until He changes His mind. So a plants life is the visible Will of God. A plants death is the absence of it. Without God, there is no life. Probably not the answer you were looking for, but this is my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm thinking that your question goes beyond a physical explanation. OK, so how would you describe it? With humans, we can point to our spirits. But what about plants? When Christians say there was no death before sin and the Fall, evolutionists LOVE to ask "Well, Adam and Eve ate plants before the Fall, so plants had to die, right?" No. The Bible says life is in the blood. (Leviticus 17:14) Only humans and animals have blood - not plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,067 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 427 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 21, 2010 Personally, I think all plants are one of three phases - 1. Growing 2. Dormancy 3. Dying I left out dead because at that point its over, decay sets in. My grass is either growing, dormant or dying, based upon conditions of climate, proper water and sunlight. Growth is and abounding towards the light when conditions are right, but withhold water then the light to which it normal grows towards begins to scorch it and it begins to die. Winter time, most plants in Florida become dormant, can actually appear dead . . . but it is really part of the growth cycle. But what truly makes a plant alive I would say is growth . . . are they (we) growing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm thinking that your question goes beyond a physical explanation. OK, so how would you describe it? With humans, we can point to our spirits. But what about plants? When Christians say there was no death before sin and the Fall, evolutionists LOVE to ask "Well, Adam and Eve ate plants before the Fall, so plants had to die, right?" No. The Bible says life is in the blood. (Leviticus 17:14) Only humans and animals have blood - not plants. Right, I thought the same, but "Lev 17:14 For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off. And a tree is not a creature? Nebula, you might as well have asked "What is the meaning of life?' I don't think there is an answer to the question that can make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm thinking that your question goes beyond a physical explanation. OK, so how would you describe it? With humans, we can point to our spirits. But what about plants? When Christians say there was no death before sin and the Fall, evolutionists LOVE to ask "Well, Adam and Eve ate plants before the Fall, so plants had to die, right?" No. The Bible says life is in the blood. (Leviticus 17:14) Only humans and animals have blood - not plants. Right, I thought the same, but "Lev 17:14 For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off. And a tree is not a creature? Nebula, you might as well have asked "What is the meaning of life?' I don't think there is an answer to the question that can make sense. Many translations, including the KJV, say the blood of life is in the flesh. "For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off." Unless you consider flesh to mean "bark." Oh, and the answer to the meaning of life is; "to glorify God and enjoy him forever." (Westminster Catechism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'm thinking that your question goes beyond a physical explanation. OK, so how would you describe it? With humans, we can point to our spirits. But what about plants? When Christians say there was no death before sin and the Fall, evolutionists LOVE to ask "Well, Adam and Eve ate plants before the Fall, so plants had to die, right?" No. The Bible says life is in the blood. (Leviticus 17:14) Only humans and animals have blood - not plants. Right, I thought the same, but "Lev 17:14 For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off. And a tree is not a creature? Nebula, you might as well have asked "What is the meaning of life?' I don't think there is an answer to the question that can make sense. Many translations, including the KJV, say the blood of life is in the flesh. "For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off." Unless you consider flesh to mean "bark." Oh, and the answer to the meaning of life is; "to glorify God and enjoy him forever." (Westminster Catechism) Amen to that! As to trees? Yes there is something there. They do react to music, and voice, that has been proven. Why, or how? Dunno........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 Probably not the answer you were looking for, but this is my thinking. I'm open to any answer at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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