wives submitting??

[Guest LadyC]

my apologies georgia, i don't know why i was thinking you weren't a believer! i must have confused you with someone else that's relatively new or something!

and yes, sometiems a husband "submits" to the wife, as in realizing that she's got a better suggestion or whatever. it's called compromise, and it works both ways. like i said, the head is turned by the neck. while the man has the final authority in the home (aside from Christ), the wife has a tremendous amount of influence on his decisions. a truly Godly marriage is one where the husband and wife work as a team, compromise or otherwise come to mutual agreements whenever necessary. a man who disregards his wife's imput and just decides "i'm the head of the house, i can do what i want no matter what you think" is NOT being a Godly husband.

little attention is ever given to the fact that a marriage is MUTUAL submission, and that the husband serves his wife as much as the wife serves the husband! the biblical definition of submission is never 'doormat'.

[georgesbluegirl]

Super Jew you rock! That's exactly what I was trying to point out...much of the Scripture must be interpreted and taken in context. That's how I view the "submission" bits - just the context that the male authors of the various books had at the time. The Bible is filled with it. Doesn't make it any less important, it's just worth paying attention to.

[Guest LadyC]

my apologies again! it's george's blue girl, not georgia blue girl! oh dear, i'm batting a thousand today aren't i?

[artsylady]

I don't mean that the wife should never submit to the husband's will, there should definitely be times when this is the case. But there should also be times when the husband submits to the wife. It works fine in my family.

Well sure. My husband is submitting to my will this weekend in fact. He wanted to go to his uncles and I wanted to go away together alone. So, he knows it's important to me, and he's relenting, knowing this and he'll make the best of it and we'll have a great time. It doesn't mean he never considers his opinion or his values or his ideas are better or greater than mine at all. It's not that he never takes my will over his own. It's not about that at all. But when it comes to important decision that affect the family, he may have one idea, I might have another idea and neither of us can come into agreement. If that's the case, I will quite graciously submit to him and he'll submit to God. We'll both submit to God actually, but I trust that my husband's final decision will be a good one, within God's will.

[georgesbluegirl]

Oh meant to point out...re my parents, by "emotion" thing I was saying that my mom is probably LESS likely to make a decision based on emotion than my dad, so if you say that the less emotional of the two should be the one to make the decision, it would be my mother.

And Romeo and Juliet was a play, and it was by a genius.

[georgesbluegirl]

Hahaha it's okay LadyC, no one's picked up on it yet: George's blue girl comes from the song "For You, Blue" from the album "Let It Be," the song written by George Harrison, who is my favorite musician and (dare I say?) hero. It's a cool twelve-bar blues song...

[Guest LadyC]

whew! :sweating: and i thought george was your boyfriend and would come after me with a big stick for that!

[Work in Progress]

This is your first wrong assumption. So you believe that the Holy Spirit had the power to inspire men to write the Scripture, but not enough power to preserve it's integrity throughout time in spite of differing cultures?

ITA Tess! With this and everything else you've said. But, I don't think the OP believes that the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, as evidenced by the "the Bible is written by men" comment. That has been used as an excuse forever and the attitude (though the OP may not realize it) that goes with it is that they were just writing in their own pride and were fallible, so we can't trust it 100%. That, of course, is heresy. I can't count how many times I've heard unbelievers use that line when arguing for something unBiblical.

The Bible was written by God and is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.

[Work in Progress]

Sorry! OP = "Original Poster".

[Work in Progress]

I guess you have to be a believer to understand.

You hit the nail on the head, girl! It's just one of those things the Holy Spirit does in you. Yep, you have to be a believer........and willing to "undo" all the garbage the World has told you regarding "submission" and understand the Biblical concept. It also helps to get rid of any pride.