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[Yahsway]

greetings Undecided, you say that the muslims do not worship mohommed, yet all thruout the Koran, the muslims are told to obey God and His Apostle.

If the Apostle is Mohommad, and not God, why would they obey him? He is just a man, right. Remember, they believe that God has no son.

here is an example:In Sura xxx111(The Confederates) quote30:

"And it is not for a believer, man or woman, to have any choice in their affairs, when God and His Apostle have decreed a matter: and whosoever disobeyeth God and His Apostle, erreth with palpable error."

And quotes like this are thruout the Koran. Its always about following and obeying God(ALLAH) and His Apostle. Sounds like they worship both to me.

Yes, in a sense theirs is a peaceful religion as long as you belong to that religon. But try and practice another religion in one of the many arab countries and see what you get. Its okay for Muslims here in America to worship the way they want because here in America we have this freedom to do so. But I am not allowed to worship Jesus the Christ, or practice Judaisim, or any other form of religious practice in the many different arab countries, as it might mean certain death for me.

As christians, we are commanded to pray for our enemies, not kill them. We also have the choice to follow Jesus or not. Not so among many muslims. If they decide to go out of their faith to worship something else besides Allah, they risk death.

I would that all men would seek and know Jesus as God, but if they chose not to, thats there choice. I do not judge them, Im commanded not to. I do not murder them, Im commanded not to.

I have the Koran. I bought it after the 9-11 attack. I wanted to know why they felt the way they do. I do not agree with it at all. There is nothing I find peaceful about it.

Undecided, may i ask why you call yourself that? And the frog part? Where does that fit in? Just curious. Oh yeah, and what brought you to worthyboards?

are you agnostic ? again, just trying to see what your beliefs are. Shalom

[UndecidedFrog]

Dear Yahsway,

This is just my opinion, and if you don't like it, you may disregard it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

Yes, muslims feel that Mohammed is a prophet, but not God. They listen and obey Mohammed's teaching as if he is an apostle. Similarly, most christians accept, listen and obey Jesus' apostles' teachings. Why do you think they worship apostles? Do you worship Jesus' apostles? Please quote where in the Quran it says to worship the apostle as God.

Do not concern yourself too much about my name. It is a nickname given to me by MSN, and I have used it ever since. I had a choice between UndecidedFrog and RustyNail. I came to WorthyBoards by way of WorthyChat. My original intention of going to WorthyChat was to make friends and to see the range of beliefs christians have and how christians behave toward unbelievers like me.

are you agnostic ? again, just trying to see what your beliefs are. Shalom

Yes, I am an agnostic, one who has no knowledge of the existence of any deity. I am also an atheist, one who has no beliefs in any deity.

Peace to you also.

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

[Guest Gladiator4God]

Make up your mind. is it gonna be agnostic or athiest?

[ajesuschrist_mathetes]

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0...4%255E2,00.html

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:CDPGh...rocess%22&hl=en

[UndecidedFrog]

Dear Gladiator4God,

This is just my opinion. You need not accept it if you disagree with it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

As I have defined it, I am both.

Yes, I am an agnostic, one who has no knowledge of the existence of any deity. I am also an atheist, one who has no beliefs in any deity

There are some who have no knowledge but believe, and there are some (like me) who have no knowledge and do not believe.

Some etymology:

A = without

Gnostic = knowledge

Theism = god belief

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

[Anonymous]

UndecidedFrog-

Can I ask a question here without inferring any animosity?

If you are not a Christian, .... why are you posting on a Christians Forums Board? We are CHRIST-ians here

[UndecidedFrog]

Dear Anonymous,

This is just my opinion. If you don't agree, you don't need to accept it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

No animosity inferred. I was told (PMed) that this is indeed a christian board, but one that also welcomed others who are not christian. With that broad welcome, I thought I would join. My intentions, I think I stated before, but here they are again:

I came to WorthyBoards by way of WorthyChat. My original intention of going to WorthyChat was to make friends and to see the range of beliefs christians have and how christians behave toward unbelievers like me

Please tell me that I am not mistaken that all are welcome on this board. I really would be embarassed if this is a board and community exclusively for christians only. All you need to tell me is that it is so, and I will leave in peace.

Thank you for your kind concern.

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

Edited September 6, 2004 by UndecidedFrog

[Anonymous]

I was not implying that you are not welcome at WorthyBoards! You are most certainly welcome here!

What I was doing was asking these questions for my own benefit, because I was not understanding your reasons for posting here. I also was having a hard time understanding that if you are not interested in Christian fellowship... then what , if any thing, were you wanting us to understand about your posts!

I have read your DISCLAIMER... but as a fellow poster... my DISCLAIMER: I feel I still have the right to ask you, like would I ask anyone else about their posts I didn't understand!

Thank you for responding back and providing some answers!

Blessings sent with Love~

[Guest Gladiator4God]

the disclaimer thing gets old after a while though..... :x:

possibly new christians shouldnt see such a disclaimer

[UndecidedFrog]

Dear Anonymous and Gladiator4God,

This is just my opinion. You need not accept it if you disagree with it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

Anonymous, you certainly have the right to ask any question you wish, and I will try my best to answer them. Please let me know if I have not been successful. I shall keep trying to the best of my ability.

Gladiator4God, you and I had a private conversation about my disclaimer above. I though I had satisfactorily explained my position, and that I continue with the disclaimer as part of a promise I made to an admin. I am truly sorry if you take offense to it. It was not meant to be offensive.

Regards,

UndecidedFrog