Guest LadyC Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 i think many people within the church body (not sure about any particular church as a whole though) tend to think of any mental illness as a spiritual battle, demon posession, or a sin issue, instead of recognizing it as something that could be a chemical imbalance in the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botanist Posted February 5, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/01/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/21/1977 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Beware of socalled experts. Every experance engenders a chemical responce. it's more a matter of posessing the approperate coping skill to deal with a given issue. if you know all about internal combustion engines, then a roadside breakdown is no problem. If one is unfimilar with automotive repair, well then, yelling, crying and screaming avails little. It's really a matter of education and charater developement. Possessing the proper tool to deal with the job. Psychology is not an exact science, it's a phlisophy. Remember, it's Medial Arts not Medical Science. That's why psychology books get discredited then rewritten. What's 'normal' today may become 'abnormal' tomorrow. Psychology and Social Sciences are notoriously political. Remember your history or be doomed to repeat it. Take a pill, instant gratification, victom mentaltity convientaly not responsable for poor choises. There are those few who truely have a physical pathology, but the vast majority do not. and btw, scripture delineates those who are sick and those who are demonically tormented. see: Matt8 Anyway, contempory society post modern beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCISGD Posted February 5, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 64 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,345 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/05/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1961 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Churches of today have predominatly lost the fear of the Lord to walk in holiness, they know they dont have Gods blessing or power so they must back down when they get a hard problem. Its not a matter of being trained by Eygpt, its a matter of having power to say "be healed in Jesus` name or to give divine counsel. The disciples were sent out in two`s and they came back marvelling that they had power over all things. Yes not all things are demons, some are imbalances needing adjustment be it change of lifestyle or medical intervention, but anyone walking close to the Lord has access to His counsel and thats a must. If we dont have that closeness we shouldnt be in ministry, and are just playing church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Churches of today have predominatly lost the fear of the Lord to walk in holiness, they know they dont have Gods blessing or power so they must back down when they get a hard problem. Its not a matter of being trained by Eygpt, its a matter of having power to say "be healed in Jesus` name or to give divine counsel. The disciples were sent out in two`s and they came back marvelling that they had power over all things. Yes not all things are demons, some are imbalances needing adjustment be it change of lifestyle or medical intervention, but anyone walking close to the Lord has access to His counsel and thats a must. If we dont have that closeness we shouldnt be in ministry, and are just playing church. It's really sad that people don't recognize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 5, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 622 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 57,286 Content Per Day: 7.57 Reputation: 29,003 Days Won: 280 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2011 Beware of socalled experts. Every experance engenders a chemical responce. it's more a matter of posessing the approperate coping skill to deal with a given issue. if you know all about internal combustion engines, then a roadside breakdown is no problem. If one is unfimilar with automotive repair, well then, yelling, crying and screaming avails little. It's really a matter of education and charater developement. Possessing the proper tool to deal with the job. Psychology is not an exact science, it's a phlisophy. Remember, it's Medial Arts not Medical Science. That's why psychology books get discredited then rewritten. What's 'normal' today may become 'abnormal' tomorrow. Psychology and Social Sciences are notoriously political. Remember your history or be doomed to repeat it. Take a pill, instant gratification, victom mentaltity convientaly not responsable for poor choises. There are those few who truely have a physical pathology, but the vast majority do not. and btw, scripture delineates those who are sick and those who are demonically tormented. see: Matt8 Anyway, contempory society post modern beliefs. I disagree that yelling and crying and screaming doesn't do any good. Women can get a lot of help by doing so...... Works for my daughter and wife. and though I can overhaul engines and rebuild transmissions, I find a good primordial scream often clears the head and lets calmer sense prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted February 5, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.95 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Why hide mental illness? We don't hide other illnesses. And thats what it is, an illlness. I have been there and done that. I never hide the fact, because I am a stronger person for it, and I know the danger signs now. I know how to avoid getting into that zone of depression and lack of self worth. I use it to testify whenever I can. It was through my wacky stage that Jesus called me. Hide it? Nope. I flaunt it, because it is nothing to be ashamed of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Why hide mental illness? We don't hide other illnesses. And thats what it is, an illlness. I have been there and done that. I never hide the fact, because I am a stronger person for it, and I know the danger signs now. I know how to avoid getting into that zone of depression and lack of self worth. I use it to testify whenever I can. It was through my wacky stage that Jesus called me. Hide it? Nope. I flaunt it, because it is nothing to be ashamed of! And therein lies the problem. Many people are ashamed of it. The ones who are afflicted with it and the ones who view it as a weakness. There's a stigma attached to mental illness and people need to get over that. Until mental illness is recognized as an actual physical ailment, that stigma will never go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCISGD Posted February 5, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 64 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,345 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/05/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1961 Share Posted February 5, 2011 If we dont have that closeness we shouldnt be in ministry, and are just playing church. It's really sad that people don't recognize that. Sad too that so many say "Lord Lord" but are infact workers of iniquity, travelling over land and seas to make converts twice as lawless as themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j102 Posted February 6, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 443 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/08/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Beware of socalled experts. Every experance engenders a chemical responce. it's more a matter of posessing the approperate coping skill to deal with a given issue. if you know all about internal combustion engines, then a roadside breakdown is no problem. If one is unfimilar with automotive repair, well then, yelling, crying and screaming avails little. It's really a matter of education and charater developement. Possessing the proper tool to deal with the job. Psychology is not an exact science, it's a phlisophy. Remember, it's Medial Arts not Medical Science. That's why psychology books get discredited then rewritten. What's 'normal' today may become 'abnormal' tomorrow. Psychology and Social Sciences are notoriously political. Remember your history or be doomed to repeat it. Take a pill, instant gratification, victom mentaltity convientaly not responsable for poor choises. There are those few who truely have a physical pathology, but the vast majority do not. on the other side of the coin we cant ignore the scientific evidence that shows genetics are involved multiple studies have shown that at least one pair of genes are almost always present in people with bipolar and the like. and of course environmental factors play a role in those faulty genes getting switched on or not. i dont see why people find it so hard to accept diseases that affect ones personality but if its any other disease that affects other parts of the body we have no problem supporting and loving them, i mean the human brain is a flesh and blood organ and can get damaged just like the rest of the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j102 Posted February 6, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 443 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/08/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Why hide mental illness? We don't hide other illnesses. And thats what it is, an illlness. I have been there and done that. I never hide the fact, because I am a stronger person for it, and I know the danger signs now. I know how to avoid getting into that zone of depression and lack of self worth. I use it to testify whenever I can. It was through my wacky stage that Jesus called me. Hide it? Nope. I flaunt it, because it is nothing to be ashamed of! testify brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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