Hypnosis

[Guest LightLink]

You dont need those things, but they are not evil.

You speak of hypnotism as if it was evil. If you say its evil because the bible doesnt speak of it, then soda cans are evil too.

Your at war huh? I think your at war with yourself then. You make your own enimy if you think satan is realy lurking behind every corner.

oh-kay...

I know Im going to be verbaly abused for this, but have you ever thought that silent prayer is in itself magic? You impressing your will onto something, and communicating with an entity more powerfull than yourself, sometimes asking things of him. That is the makings of a spell, Im sorry to say.

[His son]

You dont need those things, but they are not evil.

You speak of hypnotism as if it was evil. If you say its evil because the bible doesnt speak of it, then soda cans are evil too.

Your at war huh? I think your at war with yourself then. You make your own enimy if you think satan is realy lurking behind every corner.

oh-kay...

I know Im going to be verbaly abused for this, but have you ever thought that silent prayer is in itself magic? You impressing your will onto something, and communicating with an entity more powerfull than yourself, sometimes asking things of him. That is the makings of a spell, Im sorry to say.

Maybe you should read The Bible, and then maybe you will have something to say. I can only pray that God will open your eyes to some things that you need to be aware of. Do you read your posts before you send them? Or maybe you can explain to us the likeness of soda cans, and hypnotizm? I made it pretty clear that there are good uses for hypnotizm, and there are bad uses. Do you read what people post or are you here just to argue with other posters?

[Guest LightLink]

I have read the bible (new testament anyway)

Realy? I cry your pardon if I missed that. About your good uses for hypnotism I realy do. I am very very sorry, I didnt mean to offend.

Edited October 11, 2004 by LightLink

[His son]

I have read the bible (new testament anyway)

Realy? I cry your pardon if I missed that. About your good uses for hypnotism I realy do. I am very very sorry, I didnt mean to offend.

Apology accepted, and I ask you to forgive me also if I came off too harsh. Dipomacy is not one of my strong suits. I do believe that hypnosis has saved the lives of some people who could only have life saving surgery through hypnosis, but I see no value in it for the Christian who is totally dependant upon God in all things. And for a Christian to study it just for knowledge of to me is a difinate wast of time, and an act of disobedience to God.

[Born2BFree]

The term 'hypnosis' is applied to a method of approach to a set of human behaviors that exist in all normal people. These behaviors are ways that

human consciousness produces what we call 'mind'... 'awareness'. Its a

function of 'knowing' and 'not knowing' something. The way these behaviors are configured... in terms of hypnotic techniques... determines the kinds of mental

FOCUS achieved... usually in terms of the goals of therapy.

I agree that only those skilled in technique and knowledgable about psychological theory may approach this with the best risk management tools.

There is a national organization called Positive Changes that hires anyone able to obtain a passing grade on a credentialling test to become a certified hypnotist. Most of these lack backgrounds in medicine, or clinical psychology and I have wondered if they are able to recognize and curtail serious damages resulting from their manipulation of a person's psychology. None of these 'clinics' advertise the presence of licensed AMA/APA oversight, or supervision. Its dangerous to remove a symptom (obesity/smoking...etc) without careful review of WHY exactly the symptom is there to begin with. Often when a symptom is removed something WORSE takes its place. I have heard 'Better the devil you know than the one you don't." Of course ANY kind of devil is bad.

Again... my view of this is that psychological response to hypnotic technique is very similar in kind to physical/motor response to the technique of a judoka.

Some are very adept at knowing HOW to best direct human movement toward a specific goal: a throw, for instance as in JUDO.

Propogandists and advertisers and marketing specialists and others ALL use a grab bag of appeals and techniques suited to their special interest.

Ever find yourself responding to a sales pitch over a speaker at the market and wondered as you loaded the sacks of food into your car WHY did you buy all these widgets and meat cuts when you live ALONE?

The suseptability to suggestion lays at the core of the human response to social interaction.

[Born2BFree]

Jesus is Lord of All.

[Born2BFree]

I have listened to formal lectures in schools by clinicians who have sat in religious services conducted by Benny Hinn, Ernest Angley, Oral Roberts ... toname a few..

These did a formal review of the many hypnotic induction techniques deliberately used by some to induce cooperation in an audience. These clinicians also researched political messages making use of the same persuasive techniques. Often being informed and conscious of the tricks of Saten enables one to avoid becoming a victim of hucksters and charlatons who abuse ignorant people. Now. REAL FAITH and those who serve a ministry devoted to the GOOD of people in the name of God is another matter altogether. The Bible commands Christians to discern between good and evil. There is a way appropriate to scripture that the Christian can be guarded from the spirit of error and its manifestations (infestations). It is important not to bury the head in the sand that is growing from your shoulders. Education does have value. Be informed and be prepared.

Knowedge is real Power when God has given it to you for response as led by the Holy Ghost.

[Born2BFree]

I am curious about the identity of a topic that is without controversy...?

Clear dialog between honest individuals is a constructive activity if someone learns something useful about living a holy life. God Bless you...

One may not be efficient in living without care about CLEAR thinking. One learns how to to this by practise. The most learned individual attains that position by a willingness to engage mistakes during a process of investigation of what is true or not. Blessings to all honest seekers of the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.