Believers VS Believers

[noobie]

Some people are to prideful of there knowledge. What they believe others may or may not. Truth being no one with a straight face can say they have Gods Word all figured out. There are a lot of different views and a lot of different theories when it comes to the Word of God. Maybe it was meant to be that way. Maybe God wanted to see/or wanted you to see what views other people have.

Example.. I have seen arguments with 3 or more people with very different views. I knew where I stood on the matter but they all had very good views none the less and I don't see where I or anyone is in a position to say who is wrong and who is right. I myself could be wrong in a lot things.

I do know we all have to meet somewhere and that is at the cross. We know Christ died for us and took away our sins then came alive again after three days. There is no way to get to the father in heaven but through Jesus. That is what we need to agree on. How we get to the cross should be no ones concern but our own. So whatever it is you believe we need to maintain a healthy agree to disagree relationship. Lots of times I see conversations about religion going on and on with no end. Yes sometimes its innocent like someone trying to save someone because they think what the other person believes will hinder there way into eternal life but when you see that the argument is not changing course then it needs to be handled differently.

"And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one

casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not

us: and we forbid him, because he followeth not us.

"But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man

which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly

speak evil of me.

"For he that is not against us is on our part."

(Mark 9:38-40 KJV)

Just because people follow you not don't quite mean there always in trouble or there going to hell and so on. There are so many different views and so many different people and how they get to the cross should not be the issue its that there there that counts.

Just another users peaceful opinion is all. Thanks.. Turner

[noobie]

I agree.. There is more to it. Probably way more but when someone is set in there way, is it better to keep trying to sway there opinion and maybe provoke them into anger or should we find a middle ground and hope in time the Word will become clear to them as they study more into His great grace? We can give advice and pray. That's about all we can do. Sometimes I think its wise to sit back and let God take the rest in his hands after a certain pushing point of argument. Jesus is peace and peace does not bring anger but understanding. We as humans can not give that peace to people that shares understanding but only point at it for now.

[noobie]

The reason I am here is to learn and you have me thinking friend. Two more questions for now if you don't mind.

1: Is debating a issue judging? What we think vs what they think. When does being helpful become judging?

2: When do you stop and say to yourself "okay this is going no where" and refuse to go on with an argument?

There is no hidden agenda in the questions I just want to know for study reasons.

[Fez]

The reason I am here is to learn and you have me thinking friend. Two more questions for now if you don't mind.

1: Is debating a issue judging? What we think vs what they think. When does being helpful become judging?

2: When do you stop and say to yourself "okay this is going no where" and refuse to go on with an argument?

There is no hidden agenda in the questions I just want to know for study reasons.

1. No debating is not judging, depending on your heart. (and that's something we all need to be aware of) - "Iron sharpens iron"

2. When you have stacked the base argument up against the foundation of scripture and it fails to pass.

Blessings

[noobie]

The reason I am here is to learn and you have me thinking friend. Two more questions for now if you don't mind.

1: Is debating a issue judging? What we think vs what they think. When does being helpful become judging?

2: When do you stop and say to yourself "okay this is going no where" and refuse to go on with an argument?

There is no hidden agenda in the questions I just want to know for study reasons.

1. No debating is not judging, depending on your heart. (and that's something we all need to be aware of) - "Iron sharpens iron"

2. When you have stacked the base argument up against the foundation of scripture and it fails to pass.

Blessings

Greeting Fez! Glad to have run into you again. Iron sharpens iron, is that scripture?

[noobie]

The reason I am here is to learn and you have me thinking friend. Two more questions for now if you don't mind.

1: Is debating a issue judging? What we think vs what they think. When does being helpful become judging?

2: When do you stop and say to yourself "okay this is going no where" and refuse to go on with an argument?

There is no hidden agenda in the questions I just want to know for study reasons.

1. No debating is not judging, depending on your heart. (and that's something we all need to be aware of) - "Iron sharpens iron"

2. When you have stacked the base argument up against the foundation of scripture and it fails to pass.

Blessings

Greeting Fez! Glad to have run into you again. Iron sharpens iron, is that scripture?

Yes, it is.

Can you please tell me where can I find it? This is all for study reasons and I am writing this all down. Thanks

[noobie]

anyone?

[MorningGlory]

anyone?

Here it is, Turner...

As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. – Proverbs 27:17

[noobie]

anyone?

Here it is, Turner...

As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. – Proverbs 27:17

Oh thank you so much! I been searching this whole time for it. I will read the whole chapter before forming my opinion. This is helpful though everyone thank you all.

[noobie]

(KJV) Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

countenance like "mental composure"

Edited September 10, 2011 by Turner